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Uplifting True Story: A Minmatar Slave Becomes a Chosen of God!

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Muck Raker
Gutter Press
#61 - 2014-05-25 16:33:56 UTC
The existence of the Amarr God is not in question. Just its location.

Rumours, Wars, Rumours of Wars, Wars of Rumours!

Stitcher
Amok.
Goonswarm Federation
#62 - 2014-05-25 17:07:28 UTC
Kyllsa Siikanen wrote:
Oh, look. The atheists are here.

How quaint!


Discussing the interesting parallels between religious conversion and viral epidemiology in a purely academic, anthropological way isn't about belittling anyone's beliefs or insulting any person, it's about understanding the human condition better.

AKA Hambone

Author of The Deathworlders

Valerie Valate
Church of The Crimson Saviour
#63 - 2014-05-25 17:23:30 UTC
Stitcher wrote:
Kyllsa Siikanen wrote:
Oh, look. The atheists are here.

How quaint!


Discussing the interesting parallels between religious conversion and viral epidemiology in a purely academic, anthropological way isn't about belittling anyone's beliefs or insulting any person, it's about understanding the human condition better.



It's about belittling and insulting people when say, Diana Kim, compares the spread patterns of a plague virus with the spread pattern of Gallente cultural values, hurr.

That's when understanding the human condition goes right out the window, eheheheheheheh.

Doctor V. Valate, Professor of Archaeology at Kaztropolis Imperial University.

Nauplius
Hoi Andrapodistai
#64 - 2014-05-26 00:17:37 UTC
Stitcher wrote:


Am I supposed to be impressed that you worship and serve this monster? Where I'm from, the word for people like you is "coward."



Obeying that which has the power to condemn you to unspeakable torture for all eternity is not "cowardice" but "common sense".
Stitcher
Amok.
Goonswarm Federation
#65 - 2014-05-26 00:42:02 UTC
Nauplius wrote:
Obeying that which has the power to condemn you to unspeakable torture for all eternity is not "cowardice" but "common sense".


Obeying that which has the power to condemn you to unspeakable torture for all eternity and will automatically do so if you have the misfortune to have been born into the ethnic group it has specifically chosen for that purpose on the other hand, is not.

If your options are eternal damnation with no hope, or eternal damnation with an infinitesimally slim hope, then the common sense option is the latter.

AKA Hambone

Author of The Deathworlders

Andreus Ixiris
Duty.
SE7EN-SINS
#66 - 2014-05-26 01:00:15 UTC
Stitcher wrote:
Obeying that which has the power to condemn you to unspeakable torture for all eternity and will automatically do so if you have the misfortune to have been born into the ethnic group it has specifically chosen for that purpose on the other hand, is not.

If your options are eternal damnation with no hope, or eternal damnation with an infinitesimally slim hope, then the common sense option is the latter.

I'd argue that common sense would dictate you do the latter regardless of your ethnicity, as the entity in question is obviously dangerously arbitrary and cannot be trusted to keep its word.

Andreus Ixiris > A Civire without a chin is barely a Civire at all.

Pieter Tuulinen > He'd be Civirely disadvantaged, Andreus.

Andreus Ixiris > ...

Andreus Ixiris > This is why we're at war.

Jinari Otsito
Otsito Mining and Manufacture
#67 - 2014-05-26 02:25:56 UTC
Well, I can't think of anyone, not even the most crazed of the blooders and EoM or what have you, that would condemn almost the entire human species to eternal suffering given a little time to think about it. Even they, as deranged as they are, have some sort of principle or ideology that makes their actions a good thing to do. Create a better world through the destruction of the current one or whatever they wish to delude themselves about.

Even these people, the very worst of us all, are better beings. More morally and ethically sound beings, than this thing Naupilus there would worship. I frankly wouldn't care if I got a ringside seat at whatever resort he's peddling to the few that would slip through the eye of the needle. On general principle, I can't ever imagine that even with bulletproof evidence of its existence, that I could lower myself to lick the behind of something that's beneath even the least among us.

This is the absolute idiocy of any religion where even one creature, no matter how base and vile, would suffer for all time. Or even temporarily. It is worshiping something that's less than every last one of us.

Want something to believe in? Humanity's more than good enough for that. If some or even all of us fail in the end, it doesn't matter. We've done good and many among us will do even greater. This is something we do. Qualities innate to us. From digging in the dirt to dancing in the flares of a star, that's something to have faith in.

Perhaps the dirtsiders that named us demi-gods weren't too far from the truth.

Prime Node. Ask me about augmentation.

Claudia Osyn
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#68 - 2014-05-26 07:33:51 UTC
I created this universe so all could live happily. Sadly, I made the mistake of giving you free will to go along with your emotions. Humanity isn't smart enough to coexist peacefully though. At least the ability to innovate through conflict didn't go to waste...

A little trust goes a long way. The less you use, the further you'll go.

Diana Kim
Caldari Colonial Defense Ministry
Templis CALSF
#69 - 2014-05-26 10:25:44 UTC
Muck Raker wrote:
The existence of the Amarr God is not in question. Just its location.

Gods live with those, who believe in them, Ms. Raker. And it is through their followers Gods show us their power.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.

Nauplius
Hoi Andrapodistai
#70 - 2014-05-26 12:50:10 UTC
Stitcher wrote:


If your options are eternal damnation with no hope, or eternal damnation with an infinitesimally slim hope, then the common sense option is the latter.


The entire point of the original post was in describing how a filthy sinner rose above the station into which he was born and became a Chosen of God. His salvation is now certain.
Stitcher
Amok.
Goonswarm Federation
#71 - 2014-05-26 23:19:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Stitcher
So it's a choice between no hope at all, a coward's slim hope brought at the expense of becoming the same species of monster, or the slim hope of the courageous. Gotcha.

AKA Hambone

Author of The Deathworlders

Ragnar STS
Arcane Odyssey
Electus Matari
#72 - 2014-05-27 05:56:01 UTC
What better way to sneak into a slaver's bed chamber and murder them in their sleep or during the throws of passion? I too might temporarily pledge allegiance to the false god in order that I might spite him and destroy an entire family of slavers. Most likely the matar brother next to him was some scum turned into a willing footsoldier for the slavers and in need of being dispatched.

One freedom loving Matari has just fooled his oppressor; killed an awoxer, and is plotting his next move.

Sounds super. Tell me more about how this goes.
Diana Kim
Caldari Colonial Defense Ministry
Templis CALSF
#73 - 2014-05-27 16:27:55 UTC
Ragnar STS wrote:
What better way to sneak into a slaver's bed chamber and murder them in their sleep or during the throws of passion? I too might temporarily pledge allegiance to the false god in order that I might spite him and destroy an entire family of slavers. Most likely the matar brother next to him was some scum turned into a willing footsoldier for the slavers and in need of being dispatched.

One freedom loving Matari has just fooled his oppressor; killed an awoxer, and is plotting his next move.

Sounds super. Tell me more about how this goes.

Slaver is just a profession.
Maybe you would like to do same with, for example, secretaries?
Or, I don't know, with accountants?..

Down with this sort of terrorism, really.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.

Claudia Osyn
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#74 - 2014-05-27 18:42:16 UTC
Diana Kim wrote:
Ragnar STS wrote:
What better way to sneak into a slaver's bed chamber and murder them in their sleep or during the throws of passion? I too might temporarily pledge allegiance to the false god in order that I might spite him and destroy an entire family of slavers. Most likely the matar brother next to him was some scum turned into a willing footsoldier for the slavers and in need of being dispatched.

One freedom loving Matari has just fooled his oppressor; killed an awoxer, and is plotting his next move.

Sounds super. Tell me more about how this goes.

Slaver is just a profession.
Maybe you would like to do same with, for example, secretaries?
Or, I don't know, with accountants?..

Down with this sort of terrorism, really.

How do you draw that parallel and manage a straight face?Shocked

A little trust goes a long way. The less you use, the further you'll go.

Jinari Otsito
Otsito Mining and Manufacture
#75 - 2014-05-27 18:55:54 UTC
How could she not? It's pretty much the only thing slavers and sympathizers have left to retain a veneer of legitimacy in New Eden. Equating themselves with businesses, justice systems, ordinary men and women and such. If they do it often and loudly enough, the lie comes that much easier to the lips of both their own and even their enemies.

Some even believe they're people, rather than the scum of the cluster.

Prime Node. Ask me about augmentation.

Jaret Victorian
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#76 - 2014-05-27 22:26:57 UTC
Diana Kim wrote:

Slaver is just a profession.
Maybe you would like to do same with, for example, secretaries?
Or, I don't know, with accountants?..

Down with this sort of terrorism, really.

Or Fedos, noone cares about them anyway, right?

The point is, slavers deserve to be punished, or even better, humiliated. That would be nice to capture one and turn him into a slave. Then, perhaps, pack him into one of those deathcans and jettison it into the open space...

No, that's inhumane, of course. Should just blow him up, or pass to the authorities if they care enough.
Domanique Altares
Rifterlings
#77 - 2014-05-27 22:40:29 UTC
Diana Kim wrote:

Down with this sort of terrorism, really.


Terrorism, yes.

We're completely down with terrorism.
Claudia Osyn
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#78 - 2014-05-28 03:48:48 UTC
Domanique Altares wrote:
Diana Kim wrote:

Down with this sort of terrorism, really.


Terrorism, yes.

We're completely down with terrorism.

Terrifyingly terrible terrorism.

A little trust goes a long way. The less you use, the further you'll go.