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Will EVE become the "gaming singularity"?
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Xavier Higdon
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#21 - 2014-05-25 00:09:19 UTC
People keep complaining about CCP and their past decisions, but I think a lot of the blame lies with the very people complaining.

"Microtransactions," you cry. Considering you're willing to pay a monthly fee just to complain and insult CCP on these forums, it's not really a stretch to think you might be willing to pay for things that actually effect the game.

"Broken promises! CCP Seagull is lying," you wail. Well, here's a guy dreaming big and you're here shouting him down. Who needs to fulfil promises when you're willing to pay just to complain about those promises not being fulfilled?

CCP should start charging a PLEX a month to post on the forums, that might very well double their income.
Sato Page
Auctor Illuminatas Infinitum
#22 - 2014-05-25 00:15:35 UTC
No. EvE is dying.

Dinsdale Pirannha for [u]CEO [/u]of [u]CCP[/u]
Zorena
Questionable Ethics.
Ministry of Inappropriate Footwork
#23 - 2014-05-25 01:52:03 UTC
This one game one universe would be a lot cooler if the game engine itself would allow us to swap in-game between our roles/Games.
If it truely came down to legion being good and having an impact on the game world at large, or swapping to fighters and you could play a major role in a big space battle because you was a player and this is where I feel the VR Valkyrie does have to make good with it being a good skill-based game. In eve where you matter also because of numbers and what ship you bring but as a chessplayer even maybe for ground and "space forces later". Maybe its me but to emphasize sov war with all of the games combined is going to be maybe necessary to make the other games feel that they have more of a vital role in the "universe".


Capturing a Titan with legion soliders, begin launched from a super carrier in your coalition from VR to shoot down enemy troop transports... the longterm vision was there in the latest video.. Just how do you even bring something like this together?

Zor
Lila Merle
Paper Cats
#24 - 2014-05-25 11:15:42 UTC
Governor McMorris wrote:
Could EVE become the "gaming singularity"?
EVE could overtake Facebook, Twitter and Google.


I guess if those three go the way of MySpace, ICQ and AltaVista. (yes, a bit of hyperbole here)
As for a gaming singularity, isn't there some game with birds that people play? Or is it pigs and farms, I really don't know or care.
Zol Interbottom
Blimp Requisition Services
#25 - 2014-05-25 11:44:54 UTC
You lost me when you mentioned Legion, and again at Valkyrie, the last time at WiS.

This is CCP, they haven't released a single major feature in the time i have been playing.

"If you're quitting for the 3rd time you clearly ain't quitting" - Chribba
Brooks Puuntai
Solar Nexus.
#26 - 2014-05-25 12:29:08 UTC
I'm 99.999996% sure it won't happen.

CCP's Motto: If it isn't broken, break it. If it is broken, ignore it. Improving NPE / Dynamic New Eden
Quant Predictorian
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#27 - 2014-05-25 13:29:18 UTC
Sato Page wrote:
No. EvE is dying.

According to which information?

Investor, ancap, correspondence chess player, Fischer random fan (http://www.chess959.com)
TedStriker
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#28 - 2014-05-25 15:39:56 UTC  |  Edited by: TedStriker
as i'm getting older i suddenly understand why old ppl frown at young ppl going all excited about...nothing ;)

CCP may has toyed with this idea on and off since 2007, since EvE was feature complete and they turned towards alternative projects, all failed btw;

BUT

in theory, yea, sure, if, and thats the big IF....you can deliver before the hypetrain moves on.

Look, WIS was cooked up to get on the "Second Live" hypetrain, on the "Entropyia" hypetrain....tell me, did all the predictions about these projects becoming the new virtual reality for everybody become true? Of course not.

Then they wanted (and still WANT) a part of the FtP hypetrain, wanted to combine it with WIS (like SL). That did go well...

Dust was cooked up to get on the Console hypetrain...because the PC is dead....well, that did change fast hm?

Valkyrie was cooked up to get on the VR hypetrain...now, lets take out my crystal ball.

Sure, CCP has to ride the hypewave, because you never know what hype out of 100 will actually yield anything. The problem is that CCP is slow, very slow, to deliver on anything. Hypes seem to pass them by, leaving them with projects that simply don't take off.

There is a saying: its easy to do good once, but difficult to repeat success.
Prince Kobol
#29 - 2014-05-25 15:44:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Prince Kobol
Governor McMorris wrote:
Could EVE become the "gaming singularity"?

Could EVE become the top strategy game, combined with Legion (the top sandbox FPS), combined with Valkyrie (the top VR game) which then combined with WiS (which is the top social game). With all of these different platforms combined, it is entirely possible that EVE becomes the single game that everybody plays - all interconnected in the same universe?

The prospect is mindblowing. EVE could overtake Facebook, Twitter and Google as the most important platform of the century?

I'm literally shaking with excitement.

It'd be interesting to hear your thoughts.


Yes because CCP have a great track record.

WiS = Fail

Dust = Fail

WoD = Fail

Eve Online = Took 10 years to have 500,000 subs.

Tell us what CCP have done that gives you any confidence that Legion will ever happen, that Valkyrie will be anything other then a arcade game, let alone that Eve Online will be even mention in the same conversation as Google, Facebook and Twitter.....
Naomi Hale
#30 - 2014-05-25 16:08:48 UTC
Governor McMorris wrote:
Could EVE become the "gaming singularity"?

Could EVE become the top strategy game, combined with Legion (the top sandbox FPS), combined with Valkyrie (the top VR game) which then combined with WiS (which is the top social game). With all of these different platforms combined, it is entirely possible that EVE becomes the single game that everybody plays - all interconnected in the same universe?

The prospect is mindblowing. EVE could overtake Facebook, Twitter and Google as the most important platform of the century?

I'm literally shaking with excitement.

It'd be interesting to hear your thoughts.

Nice dream but no.

I'm Naomi Hale and this is my favourite thread on the forums.
Plug in Baby
Family Tipes
#31 - 2014-05-25 19:32:16 UTC
Governor McMorris wrote:
Arec Bardwin wrote:
No, because of :CCP:

Let's face it, CCP doesn't exactly have a stellar history of excellent strategic decisions.


Really? Because in my books, CCP has been making all the right decisions.


U WOT M8?

This is not a forum alt, this is a forum main.
Alduin666 Shikkoken
Doomheim
#32 - 2014-05-25 19:34:46 UTC
I'll only be able to answer you truthfully when I get my tinfoil hat out of the closet.

Honor is a fools prize. [I]Glory is of no use to the dead.[/I]

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Lugia3
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#33 - 2014-05-25 19:39:48 UTC
Idiva Harris wrote:
the blue donut of null will kill this game long before any of that happens. Dust is indicative of this already. Just look at the stats, a single mega corp owns pretty much all the territory, the same is / will soon be true of null and then EvE will suck huge donmkey testes from then on


The big blue donut? Really? I thought that phrase died out in 2012.

There was a big supercap fight just last week.

"CCP Dolan is full of shit." - CCP Bettik
hellcane
Never Back Down
#34 - 2014-05-25 20:19:43 UTC
Lugia3 wrote:
Idiva Harris wrote:
the blue donut of null will kill this game long before any of that happens. Dust is indicative of this already. Just look at the stats, a single mega corp owns pretty much all the territory, the same is / will soon be true of null and then EvE will suck huge donmkey testes from then on


The big blue donut? Really? I thought that phrase died out in 2012.

There was a big supercap fight just last week.

It is now called the blue waffle. Google it for specifics.
Nova Serine
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#35 - 2014-05-25 21:17:16 UTC
Governor McMorris wrote:
Could EVE become the "gaming singularity"?

Could EVE become the top strategy game, combined with Legion (the top sandbox FPS), combined with Valkyrie (the top VR game) which then combined with WiS (which is the top social game). With all of these different platforms combined, it is entirely possible that EVE becomes the single game that everybody plays - all interconnected in the same universe?


That would be... magnificent.

Shocked

Two rolls of duct tape; one for my ship, and the other for unruly ride-alongs.
Grimpak
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#36 - 2014-05-25 21:58:44 UTC
magic 8 ball says...


...well ****, it broke.

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[quote]The more I know about humans, the more I love animals.[/quote] ain't that right
Jegrey Dozer
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#37 - 2014-05-25 21:59:58 UTC
No. It will not.

It's a tantalizing and false illusion.

Competitors with more money and larger fan base will undermine CCP's success if it even comes close to happening.

The real world has assholes too. Except when they cause your RL corporation to bleed money, you can't just dock up and wait 7 days. They will either take every asset you own or make every it worthless.
Guttripper
State War Academy
Caldari State
#38 - 2014-05-25 22:30:52 UTC
A problem the original poster may have not noticed is to interact all those gaming genres would mean an acceptance of other types of lifestyles among the various player bases...

- How do people perceive Eve players but as fat neck beards that play a spreadsheet graphic game while getting together yearly at a sausagefest party to get drunk and now scrawl on public monuments?

- How are first person shooter players known but as hyped up teenagers or young adults that quickly bore of the current version of a game and are looking for the next instant gratification in head shots?

- How are the Facebook / Walking in Stations crowd noted but as a bunch of "barbies in space" that are into fashion ware while middle aged mothers discuss the cookies they baked while their newborn kids are pooping in colors (pictures included)?

- Not too sure are the Valk group... day trippers?

While there are people that will overlap various genres, the number of players that are a strong component of every aspect the original poster believes Eve can become would make a very small player base. And since there are already established markets available: Eve, Call of Duty, Facebook, etc., in my opinion, CCP should concentrate on being great at one particular thing instead of mediocre at multiple things.

Their history has noted that failed route.
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#39 - 2014-05-25 23:00:09 UTC
Governor McMorris wrote:
Could EVE become the "gaming singularity"?

Could EVE become the top strategy game, combined with Legion (the top sandbox FPS), combined with Valkyrie (the top VR game) which then combined with WiS (which is the top social game). With all of these different platforms combined, it is entirely possible that EVE becomes the single game that everybody plays - all interconnected in the same universe?

The prospect is mindblowing. EVE could overtake Facebook, Twitter and Google as the most important platform of the century?

I'm literally shaking with excitement.

It'd be interesting to hear your thoughts.



Well actually, governor, I have said for years that if CCP knew they are sitting on a time bomb here, something that could break out into a new way science fiction is consumed, they could change the game forever (or until some RL event puts us back into the stone age).

Think about it. Imagine all that Star Trek over the years was ALSO an MMO. Imagine if people didn't just watch the Battle of Wolf359, but were in that battle too.

All this needs is a show or some kind of series to "peg" it into mainstream delivery.

However, that kind of success could be its downfall. The hamsters have their limits.


Another issue is, there's no Maaaaagic Missiles. There's the sword and sorcery crowd to deal with. Some people will eat sleep and breathe sword and sorcery and won't touch a sci fi game if you paid them and others vice versa. For Eve to become some kind of "singularity", some kind of "magic" would be needed. One game tried that: Tabula Rasa and they didn't get far. We can make the argument that the power from science fiction tech and fictional magic are basically the same thing in end results - something is going to get fire thrown at it. But that's how things are.


Bring back DEEEEP Space!
Nova Serine
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#40 - 2014-05-25 23:26:42 UTC
Zorena wrote:


Capturing a Titan with legion soliders, begin launched from a super carrier in your coalition from VR to shoot down enemy troop transports... the longterm vision was there in the latest video.. Just how do you even bring something like this together?


It can be done. Nay... IT MUST BE DONE.

Two rolls of duct tape; one for my ship, and the other for unruly ride-alongs.
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