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Moving out of the noob station

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Jaysen Larrisen
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#1 - 2014-05-23 06:08:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Jaysen Larrisen
I'm finishing up the tutorials and moving on to the SOE mission arc and I've got a quick logistics question...when should I leave the Caldari Navy station and look to move all my ships and inventory somewhere else?

Really noob question - what's the most efficient way to move your gear as a newer player? How do you pick a "home base" if you are a noob....or do you just keep running missions from the initial starting station?

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Sabriz Adoudel
Move along there is nothing here
#2 - 2014-05-23 06:32:42 UTC
On selecting a home:

- if you are in a player corp, go where they suggest
- if you are not and want to start out in PVE, check out the Sisters of EVE station in Simela - it's a pretty isolated area unfortunately, but it has level 1-3 agents, access to lowsec when you want to get fights and lose ships, and a fairly functional market.
- if you want to start in trading, try a trade hub. Don't start in Jita (the biggest hub), try a smaller one like Rens
- if you want to start out in PVP, sign up for factional warfare and ask your militia "hey, I'm a new player looking for fights, where's a good place to base out of".


As for moving your stuff: I assume you have one destroyer, one venture, several skillbooks, and 3-5 frigates. Get into the destroyer, and sell everything else. You can buy replacements later.

Be warned that you might be offered awful prices selling to buy orders. If that's the case, post a 'sell order' instead. I'll let you figure that out yourself, but it lets you make an offer to sell an item at a given price that's valid for a set timeframe or until sold.

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Ro Agaja
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#3 - 2014-05-23 07:57:19 UTC
This map is your big friend in looking for a new home. The most effective way to move your venture and destroyer somewhere, where you will have fun is to scum character Maxx Run for few millions for expanded cargohold II modules, fit them into industrial ship you got from tutorial and move where you want to move.

Venture will let you find out if mining is fun enough (there are mining missions out there), destroyer will let you run security missions (interesting celestial objects to see and more shooting), your Heron with exploration bonuses will let you find out, if exploration is a game you are looking for.

Later on you probably will want to have more rewarding PvE (so - level 4 security missions) or some PvP without hours sitting and waiting for target (so - faction warfare). That means you probably will want some high sec level 4 agents next to faction warfare hot spot. It will take time till you get standings for level 4 missions. Use dotlam map and http://eve-agents.com/ to find the corp you want to work for. Check hwere it has security agents of level 2,3 and 4 - that way you will see, how your home should move.

Simela is really nice place to go, since sisters of eve missions give you loyalty points, that are easy to convert into the ware with one of the best LP/ISK ratio. But you will locked in far corner of the world for good few weeks or even months untill your standings will raise high enough.
voetius
Grundrisse
#4 - 2014-05-23 08:02:47 UTC

Good advice from Sabriz.

I'd say sell off everything you don't need as well and just keep a destroyer. As State War Academy you should be in Kisogo (?) so you should get a better price selling to buy orders there than pretty much anywhere else because you a a couple of jumps from Jita (the main trade hub).

Do not stuff everything you own into a T1 hauler and fly it off somewhere as you stand a chance of getting ganked. It's what we used to call "life in a box" when I was camping gates in low sec Smile where someone had apparently stuffed all the random junk that they owned into a hauler and flew off with it.

The Sisters epic arc starts in Arnon solar system, you can look it up in People and Places, show info, set destination and just head down there in a destroyer. There are 20 something missions in the chain and they are fairly easy to start with so you can build up some isk (they pay well for new players) and should have enough to get a cruiser to do the last couple which are a bit harder.

Ro Agaja
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#5 - 2014-05-23 08:09:22 UTC
voetius wrote:

Do not stuff everything you own into a T1 hauler and fly it off somewhere as you stand a chance of getting ganked.


Usual ganker fit is worth about 9 milions. Badger, 2 frigates and Cormorant together will hardly make the loss even. It would be poor ganking if they will try to shot this. Enough not to fly into low sec and you still can carry all your stuff with you. Simply because it is not that excpensive to make you gank object.
Sabriz Adoudel
Move along there is nothing here
#6 - 2014-05-23 11:04:31 UTC
Ro Agaja wrote:
voetius wrote:

Do not stuff everything you own into a T1 hauler and fly it off somewhere as you stand a chance of getting ganked.


Usual ganker fit is worth about 9 milions. Badger, 2 frigates and Cormorant together will hardly make the loss even. It would be poor ganking if they will try to shot this. Enough not to fly into low sec and you still can carry all your stuff with you. Simply because it is not that excpensive to make you gank object.



The thing is, a hauler that has not been cargo scanned is a pretty irresistable lottery ticket.

If I'm flying in a gank Vexor (22m) and see an Iteron, I don't ask questions. Release drones, overheat blasters and sebos, lock, warp scram, shoot, pod.

Then scoop the loot later. 22m is a cheap lottery ticket than sometimes gets you hundreds of millions.

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Elmonky
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2014-05-23 12:41:01 UTC
voetius wrote:


The Sisters epic arc starts in Arnon solar system, you can look it up in People and Places, show info, set destination and just head down there in a destroyer. There are 20 something missions in the chain and they are fairly easy to start with so you can build up some isk (they pay well for new players) and should have enough to get a cruiser to do the last couple which are a bit harder.




There are just over 50 missions in the SoE epic arc. When you get to the last misison bring a friend or upgrade to a cruiser as the npc at the end has very good repping. Alternatively you can leave your cache of ships and equipment where it is. Move over a few jumps and you always have a fallback should you need to start from scratch. A few players have these ''ammo dumps'' where they store a small amount of resources.
Velicitia
XS Tech
#8 - 2014-05-23 12:50:06 UTC
Elmonky wrote:
voetius wrote:


The Sisters epic arc starts in Arnon solar system, you can look it up in People and Places, show info, set destination and just head down there in a destroyer. There are 20 something missions in the chain and they are fairly easy to start with so you can build up some isk (they pay well for new players) and should have enough to get a cruiser to do the last couple which are a bit harder.




There are just over 50 missions in the SoE epic arc. When you get to the last misison bring a friend or upgrade to a cruiser as the npc at the end has very good repping. Alternatively you can leave your cache of ships and equipment where it is. Move over a few jumps and you always have a fallback should you need to start from scratch. A few players have these ''ammo dumps'' where they store a small amount of resources.


or, in the case of certain people ... large caches of stuff they've totally forgotten about, because it wouldn't fit in a freighter last time I moved, and **** making two trips.

One of the bitter points of a good bittervet is the realisation that all those SP don't really do much, and that the newbie is having much more fun with what little he has. - Tippia

Jaysen Larrisen
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#9 - 2014-05-23 14:25:05 UTC
Really appreciate the feedback guys. I figured it was going to be a combination of sell and move.

I'll hang on to badger and my Kestrel. I've got 2 Merlin's, 2 ventures, 1 bantom, 1 ibis , and Cormorant. I've put most of my offensive skill into missiles and I'm a few days away from lvl V Cal Frigates finishing training so the Comorant has lesser value to me.

Should I reprocess the ships and sell the materials or just sell the ships whole?

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Hans Tesla
RigWerks Incorporated
#10 - 2014-05-23 14:39:26 UTC
Since most of the people in that station are likely to get most, if not all, of those ships for free, I'd probably go with the easy answer and just reprocess the ships, even if your skills suck. It would also make it much easier to transport the leftover minerals if you want to sell them in a trade hub or to give you most of the way to having the requisite materials if you want to build a Corax to make better use of your missile skills.

I'd keep the Venture, by the way, just for funsies.

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Ethikos
Doomheim
#11 - 2014-05-23 18:14:18 UTC
I would recommend not moving out of your current system just yet actually. It should be close to Jita which is typically the best place to shop for new items, it is a high sec system, and it should be relatively centrally located to the center of the map. Instead, I would pick a ship to go exploring in and try out the various aspects of EvE to figure out where you want to go.

The most important aspect of this would be to find a corporation to join (in my view). EvE with other players is so much more entertaining than EvE by yourself. A couple of ones to check out are Brave Newbies, EvE University, Red vs Blue. Once you settle on one, you can think about moving your stuff to their home system.
Radius Prime
Tax Evading Ass.
#12 - 2014-05-23 18:36:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Radius Prime
Jaysen Larrisen wrote:
I'm finishing up the tutorials and moving on to the SOE mission arc and I've got a quick logistics question...when should I leave the Caldari Navy station and look to move all my ships and inventory somewhere else?

Really noob question - what's the most efficient way to move your gear as a newer player? How do you pick a "home base" if you are a noob....or do you just keep running missions from the initial starting station?


Move your gear? Whatever **** you collect during your newbro weeks will be mostly worthless trash. Reprocess and sell to your best benefit; cash out and move to your new home system of preference. Don't waste time/take risk trying to move it all when you can just buy what you need in the next system anyway.

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