EVE General Discussion

This year at fanfest a CCP dev said that when the plex market was peaking, he took it upon himself to artificially modify the game economy. I have a few questions about this.

1. If a player has enough in-game currency to buy all the plex on the Jita market, if that player within their right to do so?

2. If the same player puts all this plex into a cargo container and then blows up said container, has this player violated any rules?

3. Should any of the above listed events occur what safety measures are in place to prevent CCP from counter acting this large scale change in the market?

1. I don't see why not?

2. I'm sure CCP would actually be happy for that, take them liabilities off the books!

3. good question, but I wonder what would happen as players rush to buy plex and put them on the market. and/or people who have a plex horde going and putting the plex on the market

My guess is that they either sold destroyed plex or plex from banned accounts but that was just a quick wild guess I made watching the presentation, would be nice to go and look at that slide specifically.

1.Yes
2.No
3. Either the market will settle in time as demand for plex will skyrocket while supply in this case will be nonexistent, which would cause prices to soar. This would cause those who buy plexes to RMT to flood the market with them, rebalancing it. Or CCP could in theory take the original amount that was destroyed and seed them back into the market to stabilize it.

Either way, while I do see the plex market as a gauge of the value of ISK, I don't see it as the central point of New Edens Economy. If you really want to crash the New Eden Economy, manipulate the tritanium market, which I believe is near impossible.

Annihilating the plex market won't "Crash the New Eden economy" as you so grandiosely put it. It will simply make a lot of people angry. I suppose a side affect might be a change in the markets for certain materials as people lapse due to being unable to pay their sub but that certainly wouldn't crash the economy by any means.

As for your questions;
1. Yes
2. No, Also why? :thejoker.png:
3. Define 'safety measures.' If I'm understanding the question correctly, you answered it in your first paragraph.

To elaborate on 3, it has been said in the past the CCP will intervene using plex taken from banned accounts to stabilize the plex market if need be. If you're talking about safety measures to prevent CCP from doing what CCP wants to do, you obviously haven't been here long.

The outrage is strong in this one, called "Xenuria". But does he have a point? In the opening paragraph, no such point that would justify any outrage is made.
Also, no concrete details as to HOW EXACTLY the "gross manipulation" was practically implemented were mentioned, let alone discussed in order to analyze their appropriateness.

Basically, "feh".

The amount of stupid in Xenurias post makes me understand why someone would scratch off his name on a monument in Iceland.

You conflate the Eve economy with the PLEX economy. The two are separate, but not mutually exclusive. If you had actually listened to Dr. Eyj­ólf­ur Guðmunds­son, you would have at least gleaned this fact if you had two working brain cells. The Eve economy is in a slight DEFLATIONARY period, which Dr. E, states is not worrisome at the present time. The PLEX economy, which can be likened to a commodity like gold, was in a good spot throughout 2013.

PLEX has no use in the Eve economy, it doesn't build anything or do anything, it isn't used in anything. It has only one minor utility, in that it can be consumed for 30 days of game-time. That is the price of PLEX, what people are willing to pay ISK for, the utility of game-time.

People trade in PLEX to hedge off inflation much like people do IRL with gold and other precious metals. People started holding onto their PLEX instead of trading, or using their PLEX for the slight utility of game-time. For whatever reason, the velocity of PLEX slowed dramatically. This caused a sharp increase in PLEX prices. It would be like most gold mines suddenly stopped selling gold on the open market, all the while still mining gold, because the number of PLEX purchased remained steady, but fewer were being put on the market.

The Eve economy will continue to chug along happily, with a few minor inconveniences for some people, much like if someone bought all the gold in the world market at present, and shot it into the heart of the sun. Inconvenient for some, but the world will still spin, and gold mining companies will be laughing with excited glee at the wonderful outlook for gold prices.

So:
1. Yes
2. No, as a matter of fact please do, I need a good laugh.
3. The Eve economy will be as effected by it, as a mouse fart would effect the Eve economy, so why do you need any 'safety measures' for it.

"Gross an Inappropriate" You mean they are trying to keep the game fun and trying to keep themselves in business.

Why destroy it, when you could sub all your accounts for years?

I have to admit, if I ever won the lottery I would love to put this to the test.

I would go out of my way to cause as much havoc as possible

Most likely but he is a really nice guy and loves Eve, I however am not a nice guy