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Dscanner, probes and other data to stay safe

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Joseph Ray Gaterau
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2014-05-22 15:20:02 UTC
Hi All,

question(s).. been trying to research this, figure it out through Dscanning, but thought this might be faster and more thorough!

I'm an explorer currently focusing on relic/data sites in low sec (soon hope to be diving into null which makes the answer more important i would think..).

To be safe, I try to stick to system with as few people as possible.. and hold off doing anything if someone with negative security status or has a bounty. I might go in if someone doesn't have either of these, but very paranoid like.

Any other things that can show someone's hand as to their intentions just by looking at their info?

And beyond and utilizing my cloaky helios (which is AWEsome)..

When DScanning (this is my main question)..

What am I looking for exactly? I'm thinking Scanner Probes.. do they show up with different names/types?

How far should I look out from my location? I think I read somewhere 5 AU? ..not familiar with scanning down ships, but is that about where they are about to pinpoint you?

I also am thinking core scanners I should be aware of as well as they might just scan down a site and find me that way. I had that just happen this past hour. I saw Sister Core Scanners within 4AU and waited to see if the new guy would stick around. He didn't and I got to loot my relic site. :)

Oh, and.. I ready somewhere 'not' to use the 'Active Overview' box. So haven't and have been trying to sift through the view with all the junk/planets and everything. But, I just read an article that says you can now and I am able to create a probes only view (and I was able to set that up..). Will that work and catch all scanner probes?

I've been scanning regularly and have seen the above a few times, but just want to make sure I'm not missing anything.

I know my 'not being killed in my Helios yet' track record will break eventually, but I want to know all the tricks so I survive as long as possible. lol Thanks!
Grunanca
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#2 - 2014-05-22 15:31:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Grunanca
You should always scan full range. If there are probes, go cloak up. Simple as that. If you see a ship on scan, but no probes, go down to a few 100k km. Scan there for 3-4 or till the guy is gone. If noone shows up in that time, odds are he didnt prescan the site. Scan full range before uncloaking and see if any scan probes are on scan. If not, uncloak and go on

The show info will often not show anything as people often use neutral alts to scan before jumping into system.
WASPY69
Xerum.
#3 - 2014-05-22 15:35:09 UTC  |  Edited by: WASPY69
First of all, a pilot having a negative sec status or a bounty says nothing about their nature. Bad sec status can be due to highsec suicide ganking as a side activity while the pilot in question is a total nullbear, and a bounty can simply be for the lulz or a corp bounty.

Now that being said. My advice would be the following:
  • Check the corp of the pilot(s), if it's a known pirate corp like Scum for example, then i'd wear double tinfoil hats
  • Create a new overview tab with nothing but ships and probes (and maybe the sun so that you have a quick, but less preferable gtfo point).
  • In your Dscan window, make sure you're using full 360 degree scan at maximum AU, and most importantly, check "use active overview settings", that way, only things that would appear in your overview, appears in your Dscan without clutter.
  • Be aware that some people pre-scan hacking sites and waits for an explorer to warp to it so always be on your guard.
  • As soon as you see probes on your Dscan, it's time to gtfo, or push your luck blindly hoping they're not interested in you or your site.
  • Null sec is your safest bet really. Lowsec is too full of bored people that will chase you around. Find an empty null sec system. Alternatively, pre-scan like 10 or so systems, and wait for them to empty (systems without a jump bridge or station).
  • Always bring a back up supply of tinfoil hats, and hit that Dscan like it's a slot machine (every 5 or so seconds).

That's some quick tips. I probably forgot something but I'm sure other people will also offer their advice so meh.
Happy exploring!

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Joseph Ray Gaterau
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2014-05-22 15:37:29 UTC
Grunanca wrote:
The show info will often not show anything as people often use neutral alts to scan before jumping into system.

Oh, didn't think of that! ty!

..or have their buddy show up. Had that happen once.. person looked fine, until someone else popped into a system and they both showed up to my site! ..luckily my quick reflexes got me out of there quickly, lol. And we said bye to each other as I left the system. Lol
Saskia Hellmouth
Griffon Squad
#5 - 2014-05-22 15:37:31 UTC
You always want to scan full range, and you're looking for ships and probes.

A tool you can use to help determine player threat level is Pirate's Little Helper. You simply copy the list of local and it will look up killboards and apply tags to those people for quick reference. If they're a carebear, cyno bait, cyno alt, carrier pilot, and so on, plus favorite ships, and general killboard summary.
Joseph Ray Gaterau
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2014-05-22 15:44:30 UTC
WASPY69 wrote:
Null sec is your safest bet really. Lowsec is too full of bored people that will chase you around. Find an empty null sec system. Alternatively, pre-scan like 10 or so systems, and wait for them to empty (systems without a jump bridge or station).


...interesting. It's funny I started out in low sec near where my character was created and it was difficult to navigate with all the bored baddies lieing in wait. But I've found a nice low sec are off the beaten track that is much easier; it's a large area and it's not hard to find systems with no one in them. But I like the idea of doing the same in null.

I shall 'explore' that idea. :)

WASPY69 wrote:
Happy exploring!


Thanks!