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Redwyne Vyruk
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2014-05-13 08:15:05 UTC
I was trying EFT a fit that a guy shared in alliance and was this one:

[Hulk, Yieldaton]
Mining Laser Upgrade II
Mining Laser Upgrade II

Drone Navigation Computer II
Drone Navigation Computer II
[empty med slot]
[empty med slot]

Modulated Strip Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal II
Modulated Strip Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal II
Modulated Strip Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal II

Medium Drone Mining Augmentor II
Medium Drone Mining Augmentor II

Mining Drone II x5

this is, other than a high cost fitting (i'd prob place T1 rigs, also prob most pilots can't use drone nav computer II), a very high yield for minute fitting, using EFT i see an optimal 1920 m^3/minute and considering the speed of drones you can almost reach that number if you place yourself near an asteroid.The problem is that you don't have enough CPU also with all skills to 5, also using 3% CPU and 3% mining upgrades implants (higher it's too much liability), so anyone has advice?the easiest thing should be to drop a computer and then i'd be ok with skill 5 but it's a yield loss but prob the only solution (maybe with Kronos new faction computer...but prob not enough)
Velicitia
XS Tech
#2 - 2014-05-13 09:32:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Velicitia
HTFU and install Michi's implant. I mean, you want the "best yield possible"

Seriously though, if you're in a hulk, then you're in a fleet ... and you'll have orca boosts -- you'll be eating rocks to the tune of 2800 m3/minute in a 50km sphere ... and come June (or July now?) you'll be reaching even farther.


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Scarlett LaBlanc
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2014-05-14 12:45:38 UTC
Zero tank AND tech II rigs.....

The New Order will reduce that to dust the first day it's in the belts.

That ship will produce far more M3 ot tears then it ever will of ore
Zifrian
The Frog Pond
Ribbit.
#4 - 2014-05-14 13:31:23 UTC
I mined in highest with something similar for many years. I had civilian shield boosters on it. :p I have messed around with two mining drone rigs for null secs with varying degrees of success but the CPU penalty is pretty harsh. I like to tank the rats though, which I do regularly but it can get tough with three BS solo. Still working on a fit for that but it gets pricy fast. For highsec, fitting a pithii will just be a magnet for gankers.

As far as implant risk, if you are in highsec you really don't need to worry about losing your pod unless you afk mine.

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stoicfaux
#5 - 2014-05-14 14:44:42 UTC

[Hulk, New Setup 1 copy 1]
Damage Control II
Drone Damage Amplifier II

Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Small Shield Extender II
Small Shield Extender II
Warp Disruptor II

Strip Miner I
Strip Miner I
Strip Miner I

Medium Core Defense Field Extender I
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I

Gecko x1

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Redwyne Vyruk
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2014-05-14 19:38:23 UTC
stoicfaux wrote:

[Hulk, New Setup 1 copy 1]
Damage Control II
Drone Damage Amplifier II

Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Small Shield Extender II
Small Shield Extender II
Warp Disruptor II

Strip Miner I
Strip Miner I
Strip Miner I

Medium Core Defense Field Extender I
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I

Gecko x1


this is nosense, i'm asking for max yield not a PVP hulk....

the michi is not a possibility as i'm in nullsec, but the civilian shield booster is awesome
Apelacja
Sad Najwyzszy
#7 - 2014-05-14 19:55:07 UTC
mack.
Redwyne Vyruk
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2014-05-14 20:44:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Redwyne Vyruk
Mackinaw doesn't bring max yield because hulk can birng more yield, i'm assuming minign with hauler so the cargo bay it's not a gain
ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#9 - 2014-05-14 23:27:50 UTC
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Chic Botany
Doomheim
#10 - 2014-05-18 07:15:10 UTC
Redwyne Vyruk wrote:
stoicfaux wrote:

[Hulk, New Setup 1 copy 1]
Damage Control II
Drone Damage Amplifier II

Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Small Shield Extender II
Small Shield Extender II
Warp Disruptor II

Strip Miner I
Strip Miner I
Strip Miner I

Medium Core Defense Field Extender I
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I

Gecko x1


this is nosense, i'm asking for max yield not a PVP hulk....

the michi is not a possibility as i'm in nullsec, but the civilian shield booster is awesome



No, You asked for the best fit possible not the best yield possible.

Best fit depends on what you want it to do, be it max yield, tank rats, better chances of surviving a gank.

Then it goes deeper, depends on how many you mine with (my set up may not survive bigger belt rats on it's own but in my mining fleet it's fine since there's enough drones to kill them) It also depends on where you mine, what the racial rats are...
Oxide Ammar
#11 - 2014-05-18 12:29:29 UTC
[Hulk, Hulk fit]

Mining Laser Upgrade II
Mining Laser Upgrade II

Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Kinetic Deflection Amplifier II
Thermic Dissipation Amplifier II
Survey Scanner II

Modulated Strip Miner II, Pyroxeres Mining Crystal II
Modulated Strip Miner II, Pyroxeres Mining Crystal II
Modulated Strip Miner II, Pyroxeres Mining Crystal II

Medium Processor Overclocking Unit I
Medium Core Defense Field Extender II


Medium Shield Maintenance Bot II x5


Michi's Excavation Augmentor
Zainou 'Beancounter' Refining RX-804
Inherent Implants 'Highwall' Mining MX-1005

Lady Areola Fappington:  Solo PVP isn't dead!  You just need to make sure you have your booster, remote rep, cyno, and emergency Falcon alts logged in and ready before you do any solo PVPing.
Redwyne Vyruk
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2014-05-19 10:18:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Redwyne Vyruk
Chic Botany wrote:
Redwyne Vyruk wrote:
stoicfaux wrote:

[Hulk, New Setup 1 copy 1]
Damage Control II
Drone Damage Amplifier II

Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Small Shield Extender II
Small Shield Extender II
Warp Disruptor II

Strip Miner I
Strip Miner I
Strip Miner I

Medium Core Defense Field Extender I
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I

Gecko x1


this is nosense, i'm asking for max yield not a PVP hulk....

the michi is not a possibility as i'm in nullsec, but the civilian shield booster is awesome



No, You asked for the best fit possible not the best yield possible.

Best fit depends on what you want it to do, be it max yield, tank rats, better chances of surviving a gank.

Then it goes deeper, depends on how many you mine with (my set up may not survive bigger belt rats on it's own but in my mining fleet it's fine since there's enough drones to kill them) It also depends on where you mine, what the racial rats are...



My bad, i meant max yield sorry

Oxide Ammar wrote:
[Hulk, Hulk fit]

Mining Laser Upgrade II
Mining Laser Upgrade II

Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Kinetic Deflection Amplifier II
Thermic Dissipation Amplifier II
Survey Scanner II

Modulated Strip Miner II, Pyroxeres Mining Crystal II
Modulated Strip Miner II, Pyroxeres Mining Crystal II
Modulated Strip Miner II, Pyroxeres Mining Crystal II

Medium Processor Overclocking Unit I
Medium Core Defense Field Extender II


Medium Shield Maintenance Bot II x5


Michi's Excavation Augmentor
Zainou 'Beancounter' Refining RX-804
Inherent Implants 'Highwall' Mining MX-1005


this one is pretty nice but in a minign op you don't need protection from rats you all that shield tank is not much worth, but a nice setup, not the one i'm searching because i want max yield but i fear mine is the best one for yield it seems
Victoria Sin
Doomheim
#13 - 2014-05-19 10:34:12 UTC
I have no idea how/why people mine in Hulks. The constant drag/drop/cargo management is a massive pain in the behind.
Kaea Astridsson
Hoplite Brigade
Ushra'Khan
#14 - 2014-05-20 10:21:26 UTC
Victoria Sin wrote:
I have no idea how/why people mine in Hulks. The constant drag/drop/cargo management is a massive pain in the behind.


At least makes mining an activity and not AFK chore.

Get on Comms, or die typing.
Velicitia
XS Tech
#15 - 2014-05-20 10:37:19 UTC
Redwyne Vyruk wrote:


the michi is not a possibility as i'm in nullsec, but the civilian shield booster is awesome


well then don't come asking for a "Max Yield" hulk when that's not what you're looking for.


One of the bitter points of a good bittervet is the realisation that all those SP don't really do much, and that the newbie is having much more fun with what little he has. - Tippia
Redwyne Vyruk
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#16 - 2014-05-20 13:40:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Redwyne Vyruk
Velicitia wrote:
Redwyne Vyruk wrote:


the michi is not a possibility as i'm in nullsec, but the civilian shield booster is awesome


well then don't come asking for a "Max Yield" hulk when that's not what you're looking for.




i asked for an hulk fitting, not an implant setup.

Victoria Sin wrote:
I have no idea how/why people mine in Hulks. The constant drag/drop/cargo management is a massive pain in the behind.


because usually when you fleet mine you've an hauler. 10 mining ships mine less than 9 hulks and 1 hauler
Jasmine Katana
House Katana
#17 - 2014-05-28 19:15:08 UTC
stoicfaux wrote:


this is nosense, i'm asking for max yield not a PVP hulk....

the michi is not a possibility as i'm in nullsec, but the civilian shield booster is awesome


So you have max protection? max yield hulk will die in 20 seconds flat in high sec. Regardless of how 'safe' you think that hulk will be.
Ireland VonVicious
Vicious Trading Company
#18 - 2014-06-02 22:00:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Ireland VonVicious
You have a max yield hulk on paper.

The item missing is a survey scanner.

With out one you will lose time. If you don't have a orca feeding you intel on what to mine you do not currently have max yield miner.

The mods to speed up drones are almost completely useless because you should be right on top of the roid your drones are mining.

Try your max mining numbers with maxed out Orca as booster. (( EFT allows for it )) You will have much better numbers.
Arronicus
State War Academy
Caldari State
#19 - 2014-06-02 23:26:54 UTC
Redwyne Vyruk wrote:
I was trying EFT a fit that a guy shared in alliance and was this one:

[Hulk, Yieldaton]
Mining Laser Upgrade II
Mining Laser Upgrade II

Drone Navigation Computer II
Drone Navigation Computer II
[empty med slot]
[empty med slot]

Modulated Strip Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal II
Modulated Strip Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal II
Modulated Strip Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal II

Medium Drone Mining Augmentor II
Medium Drone Mining Augmentor II

Mining Drone II x5



Problem with this fitting is that the MOMENT a triple cruiser triple battleship spawn pops up and targets the same hulks, you're going to see your ships popping faster than you can warp them out. It's still possible to get a half decent, cap stable active tank on a t2 strip miner 2x MLU II hulk. Your sacrificing your ability to survive rats, in favour of a bit of drone yield and drone speed, and that's just plain bad business sense.
Redwyne Vyruk
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#20 - 2014-06-03 11:46:06 UTC
Arronicus wrote:
Redwyne Vyruk wrote:
I was trying EFT a fit that a guy shared in alliance and was this one:

[Hulk, Yieldaton]
Mining Laser Upgrade II
Mining Laser Upgrade II

Drone Navigation Computer II
Drone Navigation Computer II
[empty med slot]
[empty med slot]

Modulated Strip Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal II
Modulated Strip Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal II
Modulated Strip Miner II, Veldspar Mining Crystal II

Medium Drone Mining Augmentor II
Medium Drone Mining Augmentor II

Mining Drone II x5



Problem with this fitting is that the MOMENT a triple cruiser triple battleship spawn pops up and targets the same hulks, you're going to see your ships popping faster than you can warp them out. It's still possible to get a half decent, cap stable active tank on a t2 strip miner 2x MLU II hulk. Your sacrificing your ability to survive rats, in favour of a bit of drone yield and drone speed, and that's just plain bad business sense.


i'm ignoring defense because rats are not a problem

Ireland VonVicious wrote:
You have a max yield hulk on paper.

The item missing is a survey scanner.

With out one you will lose time. If you don't have a orca feeding you intel on what to mine you do not currently have max yield miner.

The mods to speed up drones are almost completely useless because you should be right on top of the roid your drones are mining.

Try your max mining numbers with maxed out Orca as booster. (( EFT allows for it )) You will have much better numbers.


The survey scanner is a good point but i consider a scenario with huge rocks (150k-200k units of heavy things like spod, bistot, crokite) with a 25 km distance, i could get little mroe yield with 2 minign drones rigs and 1 drone nav computer if i follow your good advise to stay closer but imo the gain is too low and with a scenario with rocks ascattered around and so more far away the drone nav computer because valuable.
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