Player Features and Ideas Discussion

This thread is going places.

I appreciate all comments and feedback, both those are against my original post and those who are for my original post. This is obviously a controversial topic otherwise wouldn't have caught on with the amount of views and posts in just a few short hours.


Here's the reason why I made the original post.

Small corporations and solo players are having more difficult of a time to keep playing as they are accustomed to. CCP, Devs, and GM's have always boasted about how EvE is a sandbox, allowing players to do whatever they want within the confines of the game mechanics. By taking away the game mechanics that allow or that appeal to small corporations and solo players is prohibiting those types of interactions and experiences from taking place. This is wrong. If this was not something the original developers of this game wanted why did they allow that functionality to take place from the beginning?

For those who want to play in big corporations and alliances that's great and you are, and should be, allowed to do so. However, playing this game in the opposite manner, small corporations and solo players, is no less or greater importance than any other way to play this game. Playing the game in small groups or by yourself is an option that everyone has in playing this game and should be protected just as much as for those who want to play in a group with 100 or 1000 other people.

Also, if a person decides to go a route that leads to more industry activities is not less important or matters less than compared to someone who doesn't engage in those types of activities. As this game gets older the viewpoint has shifted away from this reality to something of which only appeals to the majority that play this game. Since the majority of people aren't playing in small corporations or solo does that make people who choose to do so wrong? Nope.

By removing the ability to remote research from an NPC station to a POS is taking away the ability for people to chose for themselves in how they are going to play this game. If you don't like people to safely research their BPO's you can always War Dec that entity. Why don't you do that?

Whether you are aware of it or not, all of us are being forced to a particular gameplay style that just so happens to appeal positively to the masses, more people want this change than don't want it. However, I know, as so do you, if there were changes being made to this game that the masses, and yourself, were not in support of you would be crying, screaming, and whining about that and demanding change. What I am doing is logically illustrating my point of view and persuading people to stand up for themselves to take action that encourages the powers that be to make changes to the game in a better way that appeals to both the masses and the "little guy", because both parties should be treated as equals when considerations about changing the game is made.


Just because majority rules doesn't automatically make all decisions being made by the Devs and the rest of CCP are the right decision for everyone in the game. At one point in history, it was popular belief that certain race of people should not be treated as equal and treated as less than human. Then as we know it the Civil Rights movement happened and humanity realized, over time, the popular belief was wrong and needed to be modified. This is just one, very crude, example of how going with the popular belief just because you are outnumbered doesn't always make it the right choice, or right decision, or the right side.


If CCP doesn't want EvE to be played by small corporations and solo players they need to come out and say it, publically, and/or change the game mechanics to prevent it all together. For instance, require a certain number of people in order to create new corporations.

If you all that are totally opposed to me and been calling me names in game and on the forums get your way you would have CCP remove everything except the ability to PVP. Which would be fun but you would be taking away the things that have made this game great. Most people who have responded to this post so far have not been playing for as long as I have and don't know anything about the things that have contributed to the success of this game -- all you see is in the here and now, but rest assured if your voice is the only voiced that is listed to by CCP this game will go down the tubes and then nobody will be playing the game. That's why I decided to speak up for the voice that is not recently being heard and encourage other people to voice their opinions and concerns just as I have so we can also get a representation in the game once again.

On a side note, for those who call people who like Industry activities a carebear is pretty stupid as those people are usually the ones who are providing you the stuff and assets for you so you carry yourselves in the way you want to play this game. Think about other people for a chance, you may be a happier person.

Then don't defend your POS. Let it go down in flames, and replace it. Make sure to account for this eventuality and budget accordingly.

Why do you seem to think that a ten man corp should be able to do everything just as well as a 1000 man corp? There are advantages to being large, mostly inherent to the fact you have more people. also, Malanchis' law (is that how you spell it?)

Anything that helps a small group will help a large group more.

Some of you are twisting my words around and saying things that I've never mentioned. Why? lol

I am just laughing inside at you getting all upset at this post, dude, chill out.

Why you hate people so much that don't do exactly what you do in this game?

Dear CCP,

With this decision, you are directly affecting industry players and small corporations, which will affect industry as a whole.

I really don't know what your thought process is on this subject, but you've really screwed up this time. You're trying to "fix" things that aren't broken, and won't fix things like are (case in point, corp roles, POS updates like modular POS'es and having a place to dock), alliance roles, and a slew of other items you've been avoiding for more than 5 years.

I have spent HOURS on this game to build up enough resources to spend on BPO's that I need to build stuff in game, and if you take away my ability to play the game the way I want to play it (which you've said we could since 1.0) then consider losing a lot of players.

Your indy players will go away because if they can't do what they want they'll stop playing.

Industry will dry up, prices will spike for ships, and crash for fuel blocks and other ice products.

Oh, and this means that you're messing up the economy in game ..... a direct contradiction to what you said in the New York Times a few years ago, when quoted by them you said you don't affect the in game economy.

Well guess what? You're doing it now!

Indirect impact on the economy because of change in game mechanic is not the same as doctoring it.

I honestly feel that the changes are justified. if you're going to use a pos to research a bpo then it should be in the pos lab, not a station.

With the removal of slots at stations i really doubt many people will care, as there will be no wait to start, and no one will have to fork out for pos fuel.... which in turn is going to reduce the price of ice and pos pi items. BPO research is an investment in itself and once it is done, it's done, paying a little extra (saving extra?) is not going to hurt you in the long run so htfu.

Good.

It's completely broken to have 1-man industry corps researching blueprints remotely so they can pickup their POS every time they get wardec'd, with zero risk to their raw materials (the BPOs). Now at least they'll compete based on research pricing, and have to move them.

Fun fact. Some people screw up on this safe isk making method. It usually involve tears and ships going boom.