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Hpw to PvP

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Shindad Kal
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#1 - 2014-05-14 16:04:04 UTC
Hello everyone. I think I have a pretty good set up......i am in a very friendly and profitable mining corp which is keeping me in ISK better than I could have dreamed. This my alt was created to try to learn PvP. I am very interested in discovering if that type of game play is something I would enjoy or even be decent at. can any one suggest the best way to get into PvP?
Commander Cute
Capsuleer Retirement Home
#2 - 2014-05-14 16:11:01 UTC
Shindad Kal wrote:
can any one suggest the best way to get into PvP?

Post with your mining character.
Tyrendian Biohazard
The Bastards
Sedition.
#3 - 2014-05-14 16:16:42 UTC
Heh.

Honestly most people will say the best way to get into PvP is just to go out and do it. Fit some cheap frigs, go to lowsec, and find people to fight. The intricate details of PvP are way beyond being able to explain in forums, or even text in general. Each ship has its own strengths and weaknesses that need to be taken into consideration in a fight. Knowing the ships, weapon systems, etc, is something that just comes with experience. Don't look at losing ships as a loss, but rather think of it as a learning experience. You can even record your fights to review what you did right and what you did wrong.

If you're looking more for a reason to PvP, you can try faction warfare, or join public roams, finding a corporation that PvPs, etc.

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Shindad Kal
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#4 - 2014-05-14 16:25:34 UTC
Commander Cute wrote:
Shindad Kal wrote:
can any one suggest the best way to get into PvP?

Post with your mining character.



Annoying but curiously funny as well
Shindad Kal
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#5 - 2014-05-14 16:26:41 UTC
Tyrendian Biohazard wrote:
Heh.

Honestly most people will say the best way to get into PvP is just to go out and do it. Fit some cheap frigs, go to lowsec, and find people to fight. The intricate details of PvP are way beyond being able to explain in forums, or even text in general. Each ship has its own strengths and weaknesses that need to be taken into consideration in a fight. Knowing the ships, weapon systems, etc, is something that just comes with experience. Don't look at losing ships as a loss, but rather think of it as a learning experience. You can even record your fights to review what you did right and what you did wrong.

If you're looking more for a reason to PvP, you can try faction warfare, or join public roams, finding a corporation that PvPs, etc.



I figured as much...thanks for the info. experience is the best teacher...just get out and do it
Murder-Face
Doomheim
#6 - 2014-05-14 16:58:32 UTC
Here is how you PvP (to get started anyway).

Step 1 - decide if you want to go solo or join fleets.

Step 2 - join a newbie friendly PvP corp. There are many fine choices out there. If you are interested in larger fleets, try Brave Newbies, EVE University, or RvB, to name a few. If you want solo/small gang, try maybe Stay Frosty or Meatshield Bastards.

Step 3a - If you went the large fleet route, fit out a tackle frigate according to your corporation's instructions, join fleets and listen to the FC.

Step 3b - if you went the solo route, pick a frigate hull to specialize in and find/create a fit. My suggestion would be a Merlin, with afterburner, blasters, and a medium ancillary shield booster, but there are many fine choices available. Run your fit by the more experienced guys in your corp and fine tune it.

Step 4 - Buy and fit like 50 of your chosen ship. Stage them in your home system.

Step 5 - Undock, blap people, analyze the results a bit and learn from them.

Step 6 - Repeat step 5 until you have no more ships left, then go back to step 3.
Feyd Rautha Harkonnen
Doomheim
#7 - 2014-05-14 17:28:55 UTC  |  Edited by: Feyd Rautha Harkonnen
Shindad Kal wrote:
Hello everyone. I think I have a pretty good set up......i am in a very friendly and profitable mining corp which is keeping me in ISK better than I could have dreamed. This my alt was created to try to learn PvP. I am very interested in discovering if that type of game play is something I would enjoy or even be decent at. can any one suggest the best way to get into PvP?

Further to the standard methods, if you don't want to lose ships tit-for-tat while learning and enjoy the comfort of hisec, consider this.

It also has the added benefit of winning you The Order Of The Glowing Dildo commendation, universally denoting you as a man of panache' who has purged himself of all carebear heretical thinking and pansifications (similar to when Spock endured the Kolinahr on Vulcan, or Sardaukar on Salusa Secundus)....

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BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2014-05-14 18:35:31 UTC  |  Edited by: BeBopAReBop RhubarbPie
The above posters have put some good advice in here (well except for the posting with your mining character part. That might be a different type of pvp than you're looking for). Check out eve altruist for a ton of good resources on getting started in eve pvp (link is in my sig). Also hit me up in game if you want to try some duels before heading out to low and getting popped.

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Shindad Kal
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#9 - 2014-05-14 21:11:04 UTC
i appreciate all of the advice
Beliskner
Internet Loveshack
#10 - 2014-05-14 23:40:45 UTC
Get out there and just put yourself in the thick of it. Maybe try some FW and hook up with a fleet. Get over your fear of losing your ship.

Play with only frigates for awhile until you feel confident to lose more expensive ships. You are going to blow up a lot.
Iria Ahrens
Space Perverts and Forum Pirates
#11 - 2014-05-15 00:21:53 UTC  |  Edited by: Iria Ahrens
Another advantage of a good corporation for learning PvP is a reimbursement program. There are conditions attached but it can really help if you are not flying really cheap ships.

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NightCrawler 85
Phoibe Enterprises
#12 - 2014-05-15 00:26:36 UTC
I would suggest looking into RVB.

They tend to use small cheap ships, and while they are not a teaching organization many of the members are more then willing to offer advice and help if you ask politely.
Another benefit is that they dont care if your "just an alt" so your main character wont be questioned or get into trouble, unless you openly tell people who your main char is.

Except that.. Go out and blow stuff up, have fun with it, learn from your mistakes, and keep trying Big smile
ISD Magwai
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#13 - 2014-05-15 02:19:02 UTC
I just answered a very similar question. There is no right way to PVP.

Here are some options:
It really depends on what you want to do, different people have completely different PVP styles.

A. Faction Warfare. Lowsec faction warfare areas are a great way to get into PVP. You'll have access to militia chat can lead to fleets of varying skill and success. It can also be a good way to make some ISK while in a PVP environment (capturing FW duengons). Plus you'll find plenty of people flying T1 frigs with varying levels of skills. The downside? in 1/2 of empire space you'll be attacked by the opposing faction's navy. Plus your standings will drop with those factions.

B. Lowsec - Non-Faction Warfare. This doesn't limit you to faction warfare systems, plus you'll have twice the targets IN a faction warfare system. The key here is getting to know the locals and developing some friends, and learning from the guys that are killing you. Most pirates are pretty good dudes when they aren't podding you. There are always exceptions.

C. Nullsec - Find a corp / alliance that accepts new pilots. Become a hero tackle for a bit, and run with incredibly large fleets. There's good money in null sites. This tends to be more structured but with larger organizations there is generally more fleets / other bits going on. All of these corps are going to want a full API and do an interview to make sure you'll fit in with their organization.

D. Highsec - There's lots of opportunity here from joining a wardec corp to turning suspect in systems and hoping for a fight. There is high player density in highsec, so you'll find folk everywhere. The key is convincing them to fight in a manner that doesn't involve concord reducing your ship to rubble.

E. Wormhole Space - No local, and you have to love scanning. But you can lurk the great unknown solo with a cloaking device and jump the unsuspecting or join a corp that's already established. There can be a high skill point barrier here (and in Nullsec pending corp).

In my experience, EvE is not about your actions but the people you do it with. Finding a group of people you enjoy whether they are incredibly successful or not can change your outlook on the game very quickly.

Try out a couple of different methods, meet some different players, and figure out what makes sense for you.

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Feyd Rautha Harkonnen
Doomheim
#14 - 2014-05-15 17:11:30 UTC
ISD Magwai wrote:

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D. Highsec - There's lots of opportunity here from joining a wardec corp to turning suspect in systems and hoping for a fight. There is high player density in highsec, so you'll find folk everywhere. The key is convincing them to fight in a manner that doesn't involve concord reducing your ship to rubble.
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What we like about this method is the increased opportunity for a new player to bag himself a blingy loot piniata, like a lion pouncing on a juicy gazelle at the watering hole. In losec, null or WH space it is more likely the new player is the gazelle.

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Douglas Nolm
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#15 - 2014-05-15 17:25:31 UTC
I'm going to add a vote for FW, I started playing in February, did the tutorials and sisters of eve arc, then jumped straight into it. I'vemet some ggreat people, some of them are even Amarr! Getting involved with fleets helps you learn very quickly, as does constantly having to be aware of who is around you. One word of caution though, if you do de ide to go this route, I would advise you away from minmatar if you don't intend on joining a corp. There are few pick up fleets for people who aren't known, , and the militia is filled with farmers who'll just tell you to go do misions.
Mocam
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#16 - 2014-05-16 11:10:31 UTC
Join RvB or one of the Faction Warfare groups with your PvP char. You'll get plenty of action that way.
Gregor Parud
Imperial Academy
#17 - 2014-05-16 11:20:58 UTC
NightCrawler 85 wrote:
I would suggest looking into RVB.

They tend to use small cheap ships, and while they are not a teaching organization many of the members are more then willing to offer advice and help if you ask politely.
Another benefit is that they dont care if your "just an alt" so your main character wont be questioned or get into trouble, unless you openly tell people who your main char is.

Except that.. Go out and blow stuff up, have fun with it, learn from your mistakes, and keep trying Big smile


This is the best way forward imo; cheap ,easy entry pvp, you can join and leave as often as you want or need, you'll meet a ton of people whom you can learn from and perhaps convince you to try different play styles.
SKINE DMZ
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#18 - 2014-05-16 12:12:40 UTC
How? Grab a tristan and try to emulate this dude: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZIIp342qIY

I disagree

Silvetica Dian
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#19 - 2014-05-16 17:32:27 UTC
Decide what sort of pvp you want to do (might need experimentation).
Decide where you want to do it. (high sec is war deccers, suicide ganking, mission baiting etc....... low sec is piracy/ faction warfare......... null is sov warfare (massive fleets with real risk of soul crushing Tidi)/ npc null small to medium gang roaming/ hotdropping/ gate camping.
There are endless variations really but step 2 is find a corp that specialises in this and join them. No point reinventing the wheel. Listen, watch, learn, participate.
Really really think about what you want and then do serious research on the corps you are thinking of applying to.
Decent ones will conduct interviews and require an API key. Remember the interview is a two way street as you need to be checking them out as much as vice versa.

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HillBillyBushwacker HillFolk
Jupiter Roughriders
No Forks Given
#20 - 2014-05-18 22:08:42 UTC
I would never just do it. Get hooked up with an easy going PVP corp in game. i would start in low sec. I can think of a few for you if you would like. Ley them show you the ropes.

The mechanics of PVP need to be taught and you will just get frustrated.

A new pilot in PVP can be allot of fun. But if you go to low sec and not knowing the mechanics, you shoot a frig on gate and you go POP by the gate guns.

Get with some laid back guys and have fun m8. You will have a blast. The first time you get in a fight and your hands start to quiver.
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