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Synergy Lotto: A scam story.

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Andrev Nox
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#81 - 2011-12-03 16:58:39 UTC
The Forum Guy wrote:
...Must be hard, having a nyx, 60b, and no profits.



This assumes the Nyx and the site totals aren't both total fabrications.

Somer Blink - The original microlottery site.

Ail0ra
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#82 - 2011-12-03 16:58:58 UTC
The Forum Guy wrote:
Ail0ra wrote:
The Forum Guy wrote:
So, between the rigging and clearing them out today - what was your take? What was Ail0ras?



I Litteraly am on 0 profits.

Cpt Greywolf or Dudnic or DARKIFRIT or Cheese... Who cares what you wanna call him - is currently on roughly 20B +



So that nyx you "won" off your other users went to a not-for-profit organization? Lithuanians in Need of Supercarriers?

And the 300b your site claims has been cycled through it, of which the site clearly states you've "won" about 1/5th of?

Must be hard, having a nyx, 60b, and no profits.

Basic Math clearly isnt your strong point

We make about 33% profit - the 10% referral - The Awards - the 5% bonus credit payout.

We are at around 10% profit overall. Which He stole
Ail0ra
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#83 - 2011-12-03 17:00:05 UTC  |  Edited by: Ail0ra
Andrev Nox wrote:
The Forum Guy wrote:
...Must be hard, having a nyx, 60b, and no profits.



This assumes the Nyx and the site totals aren't both total fabrications.


Ive got all Data to back what we say - So dont try and be a smart ass - Your not overly good at it
The Forum Guy
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#84 - 2011-12-03 17:15:14 UTC
Ail0ra wrote:

Basic Math clearly isnt your strong point

We make about 33% profit - the 10% referral - The Awards - the 5% bonus credit payout.

We are at around 10% profit overall. Which He stole


So he got your Nyx too?
Cheese Bukandara
Doomheim
#85 - 2011-12-03 17:16:07 UTC
Ail0ra wrote:
Andrev Nox wrote:
The Forum Guy wrote:
...Must be hard, having a nyx, 60b, and no profits.



This assumes the Nyx and the site totals aren't both total fabrications.


Ive got all Data to back what we say - So dont try and be a smart ass - Your not overly good at it


http://www.chris97b.com/archon.jpg as i say decide for yourselves rigged or unrigged?
Ail0ra
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#86 - 2011-12-03 17:17:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Ail0ra
Cheese Bukandara wrote:
Ail0ra wrote:
Andrev Nox wrote:
The Forum Guy wrote:
...Must be hard, having a nyx, 60b, and no profits.



This assumes the Nyx and the site totals aren't both total fabrications.


Ive got all Data to back what we say - So dont try and be a smart ass - Your not overly good at it


http://www.chris97b.com/archon.jpg as i say decide for yourselves rigged or unrigged?


As i said, Our site never looked like that - I'd never do thopse horridely ugly buttons, You decide MsPaint or not?

If you wanna make it look legit Cpt Greywolf, atleast use Jquery buttons like i do
Cpt Greywolf
Wolves and Knights
#87 - 2011-12-04 23:26:48 UTC
Scam Alert

Watch out people Ail0ra, Gintaru, Winning ya Blinks, Fluentcode, Synergized Mistress, Synergized Jitaalt (who are the same person) are scammers and corp thieves, The so called lottery system he runs is rigged having seen proof that he left on our own TS server.

Since he has been caught out, he has denied everything ofcouse. Having spoken to Mr Cheese I have been assured the Nyx featured on the site never actually ecisted.

The screen shot in question, date stamped at : 2011-11-04 19:01 (not a MSPaint job then) was uploaded to our TS server before the nyx completed. So Gintaru Forced won a nyx on his site that never existed profit roughly 15b.

The forced win feature was removed because of the addition of a third admin, obviously its ok for him but no-one else to scam people nice huh? Essentially you guys playing synergy were paying him to win on his own 'synergies'.

But guess what you think the site is legit when Ail0ra and Winning ya blinks remain at the top of the statistics pages, then best of luck to you, is the site rigged now? who but an admin knows lol.

So the big question say if all this is in ail0ra's view lies (if it's a lie prove it as we have proven that the forced win feature existed and was used on the nyx) why did Mr Cheese walk.

Well for the most part it seems he had, had enough of Ail0ra's scamming and dcieded to scam the scammer walking away with the isk in the wallet, but it goes deeper then that. According to Mr Cheese he was paid off. True or not I don't care frankly, either way I'd sure like to have his isk.

So Ail0ra, or whatver you want to be called, prove that the, file on my ts server is not there, that it isn't in our logs who uploaded it and when. Key point being when date and time stamped on the server before the nyx completed.

Cheers
Grey
Lia Moaji
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#88 - 2011-12-04 23:34:33 UTC
so much drama... thats why i never play big in lotto's
deposit up to 500 m , take back what i invested then see if i can get more
CptConorado
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#89 - 2011-12-05 01:41:33 UTC
Reserved.

Reserved.

RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#90 - 2011-12-05 01:50:26 UTC
CptConorado wrote:
Reserved.


Drama'd

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths." -Abrazzar "the risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built" -CCP Solomon

CrimsonPrince
Krusty Krab Krew
#91 - 2011-12-05 04:21:51 UTC
Thought I'd check out the site, came across something funny:

http://pastebin.com/A3JtLu9g
When I tried signing up the character name box was blacked out. Thinking it was for privacy or whatever reason, I continued on.

Apparently your 2+ months worth of backend coding doesn't validate input before shoving it into your database.

Allow me to recommend adding the following line:

if (CurrentUser.FirstName != null)
{
//rest of code
}
else
{
Response.Redirect("Logout.aspx", true);
//inform nameless user his kind isn't welcome here
}

Seeing as I've contributed to your site, I'd like to request my own instant win button and a nyx for each of my alts :p

But in all seriousness, if this site is legit now I'd recommend against using it until stuff like that is fixed as I'm certain someone could easily find a way to exploit that to say... give themselves every ticket or whatnot.

I may be wrong and they filter out injections, just missing null entries in their filters. But I say why risk it.

Just my .02 isk worth
Skrupler
#92 - 2011-12-05 09:12:47 UTC
Entertaining!

Please go on
whaynethepain
#93 - 2011-12-05 09:25:58 UTC
Lottery's make a profit.

It is not a scam, because they only offer the chance of winning.

I personally cannot afford to take the chances I would need to win.

Getting you on your feet.

So you've further to fall.

Joshke
Red's Swashbucklers Corp
Passive Paladin
#94 - 2011-12-05 09:52:59 UTC
damn i haven't understood anything.
if someone has stolen your code, templates, etc - why on earth you're writing here? It's IRL case, so make a call to your lawyer, not to CCP.

But if he didn't (it is absolutely not clear what this guy has stolen from you), what do you want then? Ruin his business?
Ail0ra
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#95 - 2011-12-05 11:07:52 UTC
Cpt Greywolf wrote:
Scam Alert

Watch out people Ail0ra, Gintaru, Winning ya Blinks, Fluentcode, Synergized Mistress, Synergized Jitaalt (who are the same person) are scammers and corp thieves, The so called lottery system he runs is rigged having seen proof that he left on our own TS server.

Since he has been caught out, he has denied everything ofcouse. Having spoken to Mr Cheese I have been assured the Nyx featured on the site never actually ecisted.

The screen shot in question, date stamped at : 2011-11-04 19:01 (not a MSPaint job then) was uploaded to our TS server before the nyx completed. So Gintaru Forced won a nyx on his site that never existed profit roughly 15b.

The forced win feature was removed because of the addition of a third admin, obviously its ok for him but no-one else to scam people nice huh? Essentially you guys playing synergy were paying him to win on his own 'synergies'.

But guess what you think the site is legit when Ail0ra and Winning ya blinks remain at the top of the statistics pages, then best of luck to you, is the site rigged now? who but an admin knows lol.

So the big question say if all this is in ail0ra's view lies (if it's a lie prove it as we have proven that the forced win feature existed and was used on the nyx) why did Mr Cheese walk.

Well for the most part it seems he had, had enough of Ail0ra's scamming and dcieded to scam the scammer walking away with the isk in the wallet, but it goes deeper then that. According to Mr Cheese he was paid off. True or not I don't care frankly, either way I'd sure like to have his isk.

So Ail0ra, or whatver you want to be called, prove that the, file on my ts server is not there, that it isn't in our logs who uploaded it and when. Key point being when date and time stamped on the server before the nyx completed.

Cheers
Grey



Grey i'd be careful on refering to Cheese as a dif character. Andrev Nox would ofc never help competition, but im sure if he wanted to he could go and compare his apache logs to the IP you gave away yourself.

As for the rest - im tried of the Q_Qing by a scammer who stole everything synergy had after i trusted you. Its easy makeup **** to bring us down to take the spotlight off of what you have done, but unlike you when the spotlight was shined on me, i admited Which characters are mine. And fixed the Issue Andrev asked for. So from myside I kept everything Legit and Legal.
Ail0ra
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#96 - 2011-12-05 11:10:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Ail0ra
CrimsonPrince wrote:
Thought I'd check out the site, came across something funny:

http://pastebin.com/A3JtLu9g
When I tried signing up the character name box was blacked out. Thinking it was for privacy or whatever reason, I continued on.

Apparently your 2+ months worth of backend coding doesn't validate input before shoving it into your database.

Allow me to recommend adding the following line:

if (CurrentUser.FirstName != null)
{
//rest of code
}
else
{
Response.Redirect("Logout.aspx", true);
//inform nameless user his kind isn't welcome here
}

Seeing as I've contributed to your site, I'd like to request my own instant win button and a nyx for each of my alts :p

But in all seriousness, if this site is legit now I'd recommend against using it until stuff like that is fixed as I'm certain someone could easily find a way to exploit that to say... give themselves every ticket or whatnot.

I may be wrong and they filter out injections, just missing null entries in their filters. But I say why risk it.

Just my .02 isk worth



Thanks for the headsup, and sorry about the error you recieved. luckly i have never and will never be sneaky enough to want to hide my code from others.

- Ill fix the issue and as all others who found a bug, you are eligible for 50m on our site. Mail me once you have registered so i can credit you.

Oh and the error came in the validation :) not the shoving XD
Ail0ra
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#97 - 2011-12-05 11:11:45 UTC
Joshke wrote:
damn i haven't understood anything.
if someone has stolen your code, templates, etc - why on earth you're writing here? It's IRL case, so make a call to your lawyer, not to CCP.

But if he didn't (it is absolutely not clear what this guy has stolen from you), what do you want then? Ruin his business?


The main thing Andrev tried doing is wanting to tell the world which characters are mine, which he did and i admited.

As for the Code, you will notice the site is completely different now. Andrev and I spoke on TS and changes where made to our site untill they were happy that nothing was "stolen"
CrimsonPrince
Krusty Krab Krew
#98 - 2011-12-05 12:14:54 UTC
Ail0ra wrote:


Thanks for the headsup, and sorry about the error you recieved. luckly i have never and will never be sneaky enough to want to hide my code from others.

- Ill fix the issue and as all others who found a bug, you are eligible for 50m on our site. Mail me once you have registered so i can credit you.

Oh and the error came in the validation :) not the shoving XD

[/quote]

Oh no worries about the error, more gave me a little giggle than irritated me. I can relate with missing something seemingly obvious that just doesn't register after hour 23 of a coffee induced coding spree. Just wanted to warn in case this meant no sanitation was being done. And I'm glad there is proper validation, nobody ever wants this to happen: http://xkcd.com/327/ :p
Hired Assasin
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#99 - 2011-12-05 12:39:09 UTC
Cool scam bro.

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Jint Hikaru
OffWorld Exploration Inc
#100 - 2011-12-05 13:02:43 UTC
Andrev Nox wrote:
Synergized Mistress wrote:
They are indeed alts.

.......

Fair stays Fair doesnt it?


That settles the thread for me.

The owner of the site, who is also the top two winners on the site, who also won the Nyx on the site, who stole code, who used alts to have conversations with each other endorsing his service....

...is completely fair.




/This

Yes I know I am a little late to the drama train, but this about sums it up for me.

Jint Hikaru - Miner / Salvager / Explorer / SpaceBum In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move.