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Intel To Release Its First 4GHz Processor

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Doreen Kaundur
#1 - 2014-05-13 15:28:10 UTC
Intel To Release Its First 4GHz Processor

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If information uncovered by Chinese website EXPreview is to be believed, Intel's INTC +0.15% soon-to-be-released replacement for its current Intel Core i7-4770K CPU will be the company’s first that ships with a clock speed of 4GHz.

The new CPU is part of a range of refreshed chips due to be launched some time in June, with the two high-end K-series models codenamed Devil’s Canyon called the Core i5-4690K and Core i7-4790K, with the latter offering the magic 4GHz number. Using Intel’s Turbo Boost technology, the CPU will actually increase this figure to 4.4GHz when under load for extra performance.

The cheaper Core i5-4690K will apparently offer a default clock speed of 3.5GHz and will Turbo Boost to 3.9GHz. As I reported here, the new CPUs will also feature an improved thermal interface between the CPU core and heat spreader. Heat has plagued Intel’s Ivy Bridge and Haswell-based processors such as the Core i7-3770K and Core i7-4770K, with many people removing the heatspreaders and using their own thermal paste.


Combined with higher clock speeds, it’s quite possible that the new CPUs could easily reach 5GHz with a good cooler if you overclock them – something that hasn’t been widely possible since its Sandy Bridge-based processors such as the Core i7-2600K.

Intel has also just launched its new Z97 chipset, which provides native support for M.2 and SATA Express EXPR +0.94% storage standards that offer up to 10Gbps bandwith compared to 6Gbps currently available using modern SATA ports. However, there is still speculation over support for the new Devil’s Canyon CPUs and indeed for its successor, codenamed Broadwell, expected late 2014/early 2015.

It’s widely expected that the new Z97 chipset will support both new CPUs, however, it’s possible that Intel’s previous chipset, Z87, which is still widely available, may not support all future Devil’s Canyon and Broadwell CPUs.

New Z97 chipset-based motherboards were launched on Sunday and many are currently available online such as Gigabyte’s GA-Z97X-UD5H
Intel’s rival AMD, passed the 4GHz mark some time ago and actually has a 5GHz CPU in the form of the FX-9590. However, AMD is known to have a lower clock-for-clock efficiency, meaning its CPUs often don’t quite match Intel’s in terms of performance at the same clock speed.

Are you planning on building or buying a new PC with Intel’s new CPUs? Let me know what you think in the comments.

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ISD Alliance
#2 - 2014-05-15 21:27:06 UTC
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Rain6637
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#3 - 2014-05-16 08:00:19 UTC
That uncanny Intel trend of remaining too expensive to use within the current generation of motherboards...

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Webvan
All Kill No Skill
#4 - 2014-05-16 08:11:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Webvan
Turbo, like flashback to the end of the 486sx/dx days + tutbo to clock pentium speeds. Wasn't so great...

I'm in it for the money

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Dak Dallocort
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2014-05-16 13:03:07 UTC
Ah yes, the yearly tick right on schedule. This being the twilight of DDR3, it would be wise to wait for Haswell-E or Skylake.
Sibyyl
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2014-05-16 14:22:05 UTC
Ivy Bridge at 4.9 GHz

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Reaver Glitterstim
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2014-05-17 02:08:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Reaver Glitterstim
Intel spent millions of dollars to develop a processor that could run a lot faster than 3 GHz.

AMD just used more than one processor.

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Rain6637
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#8 - 2014-05-17 05:23:03 UTC
that sounds a lot like the logic behind rainfleet.

"I could spend 35 days training this spec to V, and another year training perfect supports for a 5% gain... or i could start another character and have it just as capable with level IV skills in a week... for a 100% gain.

two? make it three"

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Eternum Praetorian
Doomheim
#9 - 2014-05-17 12:18:07 UTC
AMD is running 4 ghz now isn't it?

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Rain6637
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#10 - 2014-05-17 13:12:01 UTC
yeah, fairly cheap now. they have the previous gen running at 4 GHz +

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Kesukka
#11 - 2014-05-17 13:30:31 UTC
I think AMD has one thats 4.7 GHz now or something like that. But it has a crazy 220W TDP to deal with.

It also seems like that AMD want to just produce their APUs now.

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CCP Falcon
#12 - 2014-05-17 17:50:53 UTC
I don't see this as big news at all personally. Stock clock speed isn't everything.

I've been running the same processor for 3 and a half years, and it's still in the rig that I'm currently typing this message on. The fastest I had the chip running was 5.25GHz, but I couldn't keep it stable for more than about 8 hours before the heat got to it and it decided to shut off due to overtemp. I settled for 4.8GHz after I managed to get it stable and running at an acceptable temperature.

The only modification I made to the chip was to machine polish the heatspreader to a mirror finish. I did the same thing with the cooler's contact plate, and used spray-on heat sink compound from my old job.

The machine ran for two years flawlessly, before being boxed up for a year when I came to CCP. I was reunited with it about 5 months ago, unboxed it, plugged it in, replaced the BIOS battery, reloaded the OC Profile, and it booted first time, stable at 4.8GHz again. It hasn't missed a beat for going on half a year.

The only issue I've ever had with it was the first PSU when I built it, which was from OCZ (I'll never buy an OCZ PSU again). Three months in it failed and did this. I was incredibly lucky that there was no damage to the motherboard other than a melted 24 PIN ATX socket. I de-soldered the damaged socket, ordered a new one, soldered it in, replaced the power supply with a more reliable one from Antec and the machine was running again within 48 hours.

The spec on this machine is several generations old, but when you know how to set up a machine, keep it maintained and keep it running, then you have no issues with reliability or longevity. The machine hasn't been formatted in all that time, or had a fresh install of Windows. It's still running the original version of Windows 7 Ultimate that I installed on it in 2010, and still runs perfectly. It just gets a little love now and again to keep its registry clean and tidy and all is well.

It was a big investment back in 2010, and cost me around £4500 to build, however it still chews through any game on the market with ease nearly four years later, and gives me a solid 240fps in EVE without even breaking a sweat.

Money well spent.

Here's the spec for anyone who's interested, and a few pictures below:

> Intel Core i7 980x (3.33GHz / 6 Core) @ 4.8GHz
> Asus ROG Rampage III Extreme Mainboard
> 24GB 1600MHz Corsair Dominator Triple Channel DDR3 @2100MHz
> 2x Palit 3GB GTX580 (SLI)
> 6x 1TB Samsing Spinpoint F3
> 1200w Antec TruePower Modular PSU
> Three Dell Ultrasharp 2408WFP 24" Panels @ 1920x1200 (5760x1200)
> Antec DarkFleet DF-35 Mid Tower
> Corsair H70 Liquid Cooler
> Corsair Dominator RAM Cooler

Cable OCD
Processor Cooling
Red Lighting
Case (excuse the mental carpet from my old house in the UK)
Extra Exhaust Fan From An Antec 900

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Aspalis
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2014-05-17 17:58:58 UTC
CCP Falcon wrote:

> Antec DarkFleet DF-35 Mid Tower


That case is so ugly that I would do a bit of break & entry, save the computer and put it into a nice case that does not look like arse. Probably tidy up the cable management even more while I am at it.

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Grimpak
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#14 - 2014-05-17 18:37:24 UTC
Aspalis wrote:
CCP Falcon wrote:

> Antec DarkFleet DF-35 Mid Tower


That case is so ugly that I would do a bit of break & entry, save the computer and put it into a nice case that does not look like arse. Probably tidy up the cable management even more while I am at it.

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CCP Falcon
#15 - 2014-05-17 19:09:13 UTC
Grimpak wrote:
Aspalis wrote:
CCP Falcon wrote:

> Antec DarkFleet DF-35 Mid Tower


That case is so ugly that I would do a bit of break & entry, save the computer and put it into a nice case that does not look like arse. Probably tidy up the cable management even more while I am at it.

form before beauty?Straight


Exactly.

I value cooling ability over anything else, and the DF-35 is perfect for what I wanted. You need to have a really solid cooling setup if you want to run a chip overclocked so hard for so long.

All the intakes are filtered to reduce dust and cat hair ingress (this is a pretty big concern considering I have two cats), and the fans are exactly where they're needed given the machine's layout to give as near perfect airflow as possible without creating any hot spots or pockets where hot air can get trapped.

I also worked out how good the air flow would be for a few different cases to see how they would perform, and the DF-35 came up top every time, to the point where I was able to maintain a fast through-flow of air with filtered intakes and keep a slight amount of positive pressure in the case to prevent dust and crap coming in through gaps and seams.

Proof is in the pudding, it's worked pretty much perfectly for 4 years.

It might sound dumb coming from a Gallente rather than a Caldari, but function over form wins every time.

Cool

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Reaver Glitterstim
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#16 - 2014-05-17 19:13:14 UTC
CCP Falcon wrote:
It might sound dumb coming from a Gallente rather than a Caldari, but function over form wins every time.

Yeah you would have been happy back in the old Caldari State, back when they were Gallente.

...traitor...

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Frostys Virpio: "We have to give it to him that he does put more effort than the vast majority in his idea but damn does it sometime come out of nowhere."
Aspalis
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#17 - 2014-05-17 22:02:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Aspalis
CCP Falcon wrote:
Grimpak wrote:
Aspalis wrote:
CCP Falcon wrote:

> Antec DarkFleet DF-35 Mid Tower


That case is so ugly that I would do a bit of break & entry, save the computer and put it into a nice case that does not look like arse. Probably tidy up the cable management even more while I am at it.

form before beauty?Straight


Exactly.

I value cooling ability over anything else, and the DF-35 is perfect for what I wanted. You need to have a really solid cooling setup if you want to run a chip overclocked so hard for so long.

All the intakes are filtered to reduce dust and cat hair ingress (this is a pretty big concern considering I have two cats), and the fans are exactly where they're needed given the machine's layout to give as near perfect airflow as possible without creating any hot spots or pockets where hot air can get trapped.

I also worked out how good the air flow would be for a few different cases to see how they would perform, and the DF-35 came up top every time, to the point where I was able to maintain a fast through-flow of air with filtered intakes and keep a slight amount of positive pressure in the case to prevent dust and crap coming in through gaps and seams.

Proof is in the pudding, it's worked pretty much perfectly for 4 years.

It might sound dumb coming from a Gallente rather than a Caldari, but function over form wins every time.

Cool



I used to be a massive Antec fanboy back in the day starting with the Sonata, moved over to P180 and the latter P183 but back on topic, I am curious about your temps under idle and load, ambient temp as well. If I were going with a ATX build with a similar setup as yours, I would go with a Fractal Design R4 because of the general layout in the case and how easy it is to work with and I prefer Scandinavian minimalism in FDs products.

Touching quick on a different subject, I am finalizing a new build that will reside inside a Fractal Design Node 804 and while Haswell-e and X99 is tempting, I suspect that a kit (CPU, Mobo and RAM) will be at least twice as expensive as X79 is today which will be just ridiculously expensive, I also suspect that we won't see the "real" benefits of DDR4 until a couple of years -- that is why I am eying Devil's Canyon.

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James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#18 - 2014-05-17 23:52:26 UTC  |  Edited by: James Amril-Kesh
Reaver Glitterstim wrote:
Intel spent millions of dollars to develop a processor that could run a lot faster than 3 GHz.

AMD just used more than one processor.

Not all computations can be parallelized, and most software doesn't even take advantage of parallelism in the areas where it could do so. Multithreading is difficult from a programming perspective. EVE is entirely single-threaded, so multiple cores only come into play when running more than one client simultaneously (since operating systems handle separate processes across multiple cores natively and the programmer doesn't have to do anything).

Also I'm sure this processor uses more than one core... the days of single-core processors in anything other than embedded systems and the economy level are over.

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Jax Acami
Whatever Brah
#19 - 2014-05-18 00:10:52 UTC
CCP Falcon wrote:
I don't see this as big news at all personally. Stock clock speed isn't everything.

I've been running the same processor for 3 and a half years, and it's still in the rig that I'm currently typing this message on. The fastest I had the chip running was 5.25GHz, but I couldn't keep it stable for more than about 8 hours before the heat got to it and it decided to shut off due to overtemp. I settled for 4.8GHz after I managed to get it stable and running at an acceptable temperature.

The only modification I made to the chip was to machine polish the heatspreader to a mirror finish. I did the same thing with the cooler's contact plate, and used spray-on heat sink compound from my old job.

The machine ran for two years flawlessly, before being boxed up for a year when I came to CCP. I was reunited with it about 5 months ago, unboxed it, plugged it in, replaced the BIOS battery, reloaded the OC Profile, and it booted first time, stable at 4.8GHz again. It hasn't missed a beat for going on half a year.

The only issue I've ever had with it was the first PSU when I built it, which was from OCZ (I'll never buy an OCZ PSU again). Three months in it failed and did this. I was incredibly lucky that there was no damage to the motherboard other than a melted 24 PIN ATX socket. I de-soldered the damaged socket, ordered a new one, soldered it in, replaced the power supply with a more reliable one from Antec and the machine was running again within 48 hours.

The spec on this machine is several generations old, but when you know how to set up a machine, keep it maintained and keep it running, then you have no issues with reliability or longevity. The machine hasn't been formatted in all that time, or had a fresh install of Windows. It's still running the original version of Windows 7 Ultimate that I installed on it in 2010, and still runs perfectly. It just gets a little love now and again to keep its registry clean and tidy and all is well.

It was a big investment back in 2010, and cost me around £4500 to build, however it still chews through any game on the market with ease nearly four years later, and gives me a solid 240fps in EVE without even breaking a sweat.

Money well spent.

Here's the spec for anyone who's interested, and a few pictures below:

> Intel Core i7 980x (3.33GHz / 6 Core) @ 4.8GHz
> Asus ROG Rampage III Extreme Mainboard
> 24GB 1600MHz Corsair Dominator Triple Channel DDR3 @2100MHz
> 2x Palit 3GB GTX580 (SLI)
> 6x 1TB Samsing Spinpoint F3
> 1200w Antec TruePower Modular PSU
> Three Dell Ultrasharp 2408WFP 24" Panels @ 1920x1200 (5760x1200)
> Antec DarkFleet DF-35 Mid Tower
> Corsair H70 Liquid Cooler
> Corsair Dominator RAM Cooler

Cable OCD
Processor Cooling
Red Lighting
Case (excuse the mental carpet from my old house in the UK)
Extra Exhaust Fan From An Antec 900



You're proud of it aren't you :D
Xenuria
#20 - 2014-05-18 00:14:39 UTC
Doreen Kaundur wrote:
Intel To Release Its First 4GHz Processor

Quote:
If information uncovered by Chinese website EXPreview is to be believed, Intel's INTC +0.15% soon-to-be-released replacement for its current Intel Core i7-4770K CPU will be the company’s first that ships with a clock speed of 4GHz.

The new CPU is part of a range of refreshed chips due to be launched some time in June, with the two high-end K-series models codenamed Devil’s Canyon called the Core i5-4690K and Core i7-4790K, with the latter offering the magic 4GHz number. Using Intel’s Turbo Boost technology, the CPU will actually increase this figure to 4.4GHz when under load for extra performance.

The cheaper Core i5-4690K will apparently offer a default clock speed of 3.5GHz and will Turbo Boost to 3.9GHz. As I reported here, the new CPUs will also feature an improved thermal interface between the CPU core and heat spreader. Heat has plagued Intel’s Ivy Bridge and Haswell-based processors such as the Core i7-3770K and Core i7-4770K, with many people removing the heatspreaders and using their own thermal paste.


Combined with higher clock speeds, it’s quite possible that the new CPUs could easily reach 5GHz with a good cooler if you overclock them – something that hasn’t been widely possible since its Sandy Bridge-based processors such as the Core i7-2600K.

Intel has also just launched its new Z97 chipset, which provides native support for M.2 and SATA Express EXPR +0.94% storage standards that offer up to 10Gbps bandwith compared to 6Gbps currently available using modern SATA ports. However, there is still speculation over support for the new Devil’s Canyon CPUs and indeed for its successor, codenamed Broadwell, expected late 2014/early 2015.

It’s widely expected that the new Z97 chipset will support both new CPUs, however, it’s possible that Intel’s previous chipset, Z87, which is still widely available, may not support all future Devil’s Canyon and Broadwell CPUs.

New Z97 chipset-based motherboards were launched on Sunday and many are currently available online such as Gigabyte’s GA-Z97X-UD5H
Intel’s rival AMD, passed the 4GHz mark some time ago and actually has a 5GHz CPU in the form of the FX-9590. However, AMD is known to have a lower clock-for-clock efficiency, meaning its CPUs often don’t quite match Intel’s in terms of performance at the same clock speed.

Are you planning on building or buying a new PC with Intel’s new CPUs? Let me know what you think in the comments.



Old News I am afraid.

The new chips for x99 will be 12 Core 4Ghz.

The gap between Civilian and Government tech is closing.

http://i.imgur.com/vHMMmoH.png

For example, the replacement for my current workstation will be faster than anything.

1-6 TB SSD 5GB/s Transfer
2 x99 CPUs 12Core 4Ghz.

CSM 12 Candidate
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