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Tackling the problem of null-sec ratting bots.

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Audrey UntzUntz
Doomheim
#21 - 2014-05-15 17:05:30 UTC
La Nariz wrote:
Security presentation showed that most botting occurs in highsec.

Most caught botting*

It could still be the case, or it could be that null-sec botters are better at their craft, not sure.
Prince Kobol
#22 - 2014-05-15 17:07:27 UTC
Audrey UntzUntz wrote:
La Nariz wrote:
Security presentation showed that most botting occurs in highsec.

Most caught botting*

It could still be the case, or it could be that null-sec botters are better at their craft, not sure.



Well according to Dingleberry the null sec cartels will not allow CCP to ban any null sec bots because you know.. all of us in null sec run CCP Big smile
Dave Stark
#23 - 2014-05-15 17:08:18 UTC
La Nariz wrote:
Dave Stark wrote:
Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:
Once again, a waste of electrons.

The cartels will not allow CCP to go after null sec bots.


oh ****, the tin man is here.

fun fact: if you're botting, ccp will ban you; they don't care who you are.


I was thinking more along the lines of the scarecrow is here but I suppose if you squint he fits the tinman better.


have you ever seen a parent's half arsed attempt at a tin man costume for a school play? basically sending their child to school mummified in tin foil with a watering can helmet?

that's basically the mental image i have when people mention dinsdale.
Adrie Atticus
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#24 - 2014-05-15 17:36:31 UTC
Prince Kobol wrote:
Audrey UntzUntz wrote:
La Nariz wrote:
Security presentation showed that most botting occurs in highsec.

Most caught botting*

It could still be the case, or it could be that null-sec botters are better at their craft, not sure.



Well according to Dingleberry the null sec cartels will not allow CCP to ban any null sec bots because you know.. all of us in null sec run CCP Big smile


Only reason why CCP Guard stays so sexy is because I starve him 2 days per week.
La Nariz
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#25 - 2014-05-15 17:42:23 UTC
Dave Stark wrote:
La Nariz wrote:
Dave Stark wrote:
Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:
Once again, a waste of electrons.

The cartels will not allow CCP to go after null sec bots.


oh ****, the tin man is here.

fun fact: if you're botting, ccp will ban you; they don't care who you are.


I was thinking more along the lines of the scarecrow is here but I suppose if you squint he fits the tinman better.


have you ever seen a parent's half arsed attempt at a tin man costume for a school play? basically sending their child to school mummified in tin foil with a watering can helmet?

that's basically the mental image i have when people mention dinsdale.


That's the perfect image.

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Kitty Bear
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#26 - 2014-05-15 17:42:28 UTC
Dave Stark wrote:
Namiene wrote:
How can it be fair to the people who actually play the game to have their profits reduced by those who afk farm rat belts and anoms afk for 23 hours every day.


by removing supply/demand from the equation governing bounty payouts it will be fair to everyone.

oh wait, that's already the case.
guess we've solved that problem.


small side note

Concord do not intervene between PC's in nul-sec
Concord do not patrol nul-sec Gates
Concord do not maintain Gate Guns in nul-sec
Concord do not maintain Station Guns in nul-sec
Concord pay bounties on NPC Pirates in nul-sec

1 of those mini-facts seems out of place.



Now how can you
A) Remove Belt Ratting as a RMT/Botting resource
B) Make Industry more relevant in making nul-sec more self-sufficient.

yeah, I know .. many tears, much anger, such nerfing.
but it's not 2005 anymore, it's time for nul-sec to remove the training wheels
La Nariz
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#27 - 2014-05-15 17:44:59 UTC  |  Edited by: La Nariz
^^: Answer is nerfing highsec.

Audrey UntzUntz wrote:
La Nariz wrote:
Security presentation showed that most botting occurs in highsec.

Most caught botting*

It could still be the case, or it could be that null-sec botters are better at their craft, not sure.


So basically you only have speculation to back up your point. Whereas we have facts to back up my point.

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Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#28 - 2014-05-15 17:45:08 UTC
Kitty Bear wrote:

A) Remove Belt Ratting as a RMT/Botting resource
B) Make Industry more relevant in making nul-sec more self-sufficient.

yeah, I know .. many tears, much anger, such nerfing.
but it's not 2005 anymore, it's time for nul-sec to remove the training wheels


Yeah cos there is not such thing as Industry Bots

Bots CAN into production/invention

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann
Prince Kobol
#29 - 2014-05-15 17:50:21 UTC
Dave Stark wrote:
La Nariz wrote:
Dave Stark wrote:
Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:
Once again, a waste of electrons.

The cartels will not allow CCP to go after null sec bots.


oh ****, the tin man is here.

fun fact: if you're botting, ccp will ban you; they don't care who you are.


I was thinking more along the lines of the scarecrow is here but I suppose if you squint he fits the tinman better.


have you ever seen a parent's half arsed attempt at a tin man costume for a school play? basically sending their child to school mummified in tin foil with a watering can helmet?

that's basically the mental image i have when people mention dinsdale.


Damn that made me spit my coffee out !!!!!!
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#30 - 2014-05-15 18:18:12 UTC
Audrey UntzUntz wrote:
Most caught botting*

It could still be the case, or it could be that null-sec botters are better at their craft, not sure.


if you observe more of a thing in area A than in area B, that usually means there is more of that thing in area A

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar
Prince Kobol
#31 - 2014-05-15 18:29:10 UTC
Andski wrote:
Audrey UntzUntz wrote:
Most caught botting*

It could still be the case, or it could be that null-sec botters are better at their craft, not sure.


if you observe more of a thing in area A than in area B, that usually means there is more of that thing in area A


Unless of course your name is dinsdale.. in which case it means that CCP are using their ultra top secret code that makes anybody who is botting / macro'ing / RMT outside of High Sec completely invisible
General Nusense
Doomheim
#32 - 2014-05-15 18:29:33 UTC
La Nariz wrote:
Proof Highsec reward needs to be nerfed:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AqC-BTui2uSGdDlxa2dWOG5ieHB0QXBVWW82bGN5TFE&usp=sharing



This "proof" is a load of ****. If you are only making 69 mil isk per hour ratting anoms in nullsec, you either 1) suck or 2) dont know how to rat. Please have someone with "skills" and knows how to "iskperhour" do it. Then go to Highsec and run LVL 4 missions and compare the two. Your "proof" will be a joke, like everyone knows it is.

Made a signature so I am taken seriously on the forums, since thats the only thing they are good for.
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#33 - 2014-05-15 18:36:40 UTC
General Nusense wrote:
La Nariz wrote:
Proof Highsec reward needs to be nerfed:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AqC-BTui2uSGdDlxa2dWOG5ieHB0QXBVWW82bGN5TFE&usp=sharing



This "proof" is a load of ****. If you are only making 69 mil isk per hour ratting anoms in nullsec, you either 1) suck or 2) dont know how to rat. Please have someone with "skills" and knows how to "iskperhour" do it. Then go to Highsec and run LVL 4 missions and compare the two. Your "proof" will be a joke, like everyone knows it is.


That's what isk you make using the most popular ratting ship the ishtar.

Max you will ever make from anoms is 90 mil/hr

High sec level 4 missions not only matches that but 100+ mil/hr isnt too hard to do. That's before we get into incursions.
Jaun Pacht-Feng
Doomheim
#34 - 2014-05-15 18:50:47 UTC
Combatting Nullsec Ratting bots would go against Alliance leaderships RMT quotas each month.

I'd suggest getting into a Nullsec Bloc, and moving up the ranks to leadership level...as Alliance leaders/lackys are the only ones allowed to Bot in their space under a alt botting corp so their main Alliance get's left alone by a new Dev.

Then you collect as much evidence as you possibly can, then you go public about it, posting it anywhere in the EVE-O forums would get a swift lock...then deleted thread, with a account wide ban for you.

"Go Goon or Go Home"

Perfect description of the biggest problem with Eve. 
Erufen Rito
The Dark Space Initiative
Scary Wormhole People
#35 - 2014-05-15 18:56:18 UTC
Abrazzar wrote:
La Nariz wrote:
Security presentation showed that most botting occurs in highsec.

In absolute numbers or in percentage per population?

How does that matter, when hisec has a bigger population than null or low or WH?

This is as nice as I get. Best quote ever https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4137165#post4137165
Marsha Mallow
#36 - 2014-05-15 19:51:22 UTC
Can you PLEASE RP on your own forum, you perverts

Ripard Teg > For the morons in the room:

Sweets > U can dd my face any day
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#37 - 2014-05-15 19:52:44 UTC
Marsha Mallow wrote:
Can you PLEASE RP on your own forum, you perverts

Im not RPing

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#38 - 2014-05-15 19:52:47 UTC
This situation calls for only one solution...


MORE AFK CLOAKING!!!!!!!


Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#39 - 2014-05-15 19:59:04 UTC
Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:
This situation calls for only one solution...
MORE AFK CLOAKING!!!!!!!


A sensible policy for a happier New Eden

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann
Marsha Mallow
#40 - 2014-05-15 19:59:12 UTC
Ramona McCandless wrote:
Im not RPing

OK carry on then.

Stuff AFK cloaking, just leave alts in stations, login when drunk and try ransom the system. I've made just over a million so far, but sadly nodded off when alliance lead convo'd me for diplomatic talks.

Ripard Teg > For the morons in the room:

Sweets > U can dd my face any day