EVE General Discussion

Does firing bombs at gate camps randomly from a single SB count as the 99% or the 1%?

I'm not sure exactly what you're trying to ask. Lots of people take out blinged out ships. When I flew with a large WH corp, barely any of my ships were less than a 1b fit, a couple of them were in the 3b range and I still had less bling than most of my other corp members. I still take out my 4b marauder when I feel like some lvl4 shenanigans, I just avoid the busy mission hubs. (NB: Not this character or this corp for those thinking of running a few locators).



Shouldn't what?

My faith is no longer lacking.
Thank you, sir.

Do you by any chance still actively participate in our prison yard shenanigans where shivs made of toothbrushes and few friends can do wonders? Or that is just a reminiscence from good old times when CCP rules didn't prevent you from messing up other people space pixels?

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There just needs to be a way to discourage the current cowardly tactics of blobs and camping en mass and give people a reason to ship up and go out and fight either solo or in small gangs without breaking the bank or losing what has taken an incredible amount of boring grind to achieve.

That is generally my point.

Lots of solo and small gangers play eve too - why just benefit the game for the isboxers, donuters and plex buyers?

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And bringing friends to gank shiny is one of those skills.

Sorry thats you being risk adverse and not going for the kill by yourself.

I have been playing Eve since 2007 with the occasional 'burnout break' of 3 to 6 months here and there and today thought came to me which I think has been kind of skirted around before but maybe not stated in the way I am going to try.

Hopefully through this post it will kind of give a few of you something akin to a feeling of realisation as it kind of did for me and hopefully some useful posts may follow.

Try to apply these words not to your own personal situation but also to the of the 'space poor' newer and casual players

Now Eve online has a fantastic ship modification system, I mean absolutely the best 'gear' of any game (mmo or not) out there.

From T1, Meta 1-4, Faction, Officer and T2 modules the possibilities on fitting your ship are absolutely endless.
Not only is this almost a mini game itself when you factor in tools such as EFT and pyfa * but it gives a massive array of sometimes rare or expensive modules to aspire to own and fit on your ship in game.

When we look at the better modules and rigs out there, the price difference much of the time does reflect how useful that module may be or its rarity.
This can result in your aspired ship fitting turning a 150 million isk hull into a 1 billion isk fitted ship. This can be for a lot of players and achievement itself and something to be proud of through the countless hours of (sometimes boring) isk generation to afford the modules or exploration / hunting to find blueprints.

So you have your ship.
You sit there spinning the ship in the station, your theory crafting and fitting has come to a head and all of a sudden it dawns on you.

'what the hell am I supposed to do with this?'

The realisation that the countless times of checking stats and paying that extra 200 million isk to get that extra CPU, which in turn allows you to fit that module to increase resists by a further <5% generally means next to nothing in the Eve 'real world' ...and here is why......

Generally eve players are very risk averse.
The mantra 'don't fly what you can't afford to lose' is ingrained into everyone from the start and for good reason.
In eve loss is a very real part of the eve life and this is what makes this game probably the most epic and interesting mmo out there.

What this also means is 99% of combat pilots in eve will never, ever engage unless the odds are stacked completely in their favour.

You have your perfect combat ship but quickly realise that you will only ever fly it in a definite win situation.
Lets say with another 20 fleet members, with logi support and your finger on the GTFO button should any real competition appear.

The pinnacle of fitting your dream ship should be the assurance that it can hold its own in a fight be that against other player and this is what you have done, however the situation to use that fit in any solo, or in some cases even small gang application where you can feel YOU have built something and used it to good effect, will in many cases never materialise.

You have scrimped and saved and spent many hours grinding the isk to build a ship which you are to scared to use in anger due to fear of the blob, lack of trust due to awoxing and throw away suicide gankers.


So in conclusion to this long post (sorry) Eve has many many fitting options and much bling which would be great to actually use to good effect, but due to social and economic aspects will never be used in anger.
We have all seen the odd video of a single ship taking on a gang but these are very very few and far between.
I would personally love to fly out into low in a bhaalgorn or nightmare (for example) and pit against 2 or 3 T1 battleships but I know it will never happen because that 2 or 3 will soon become 20 or 30 and my ship of choice is just a lot of isk up in smoke for very little 'fun' after many hours of Isk generation.

Personally I think we need more for our isk and a real rebalance of modules, or a total market crash.
either that or make modules (Industry) easier and far more accessable AND less inclined to become a monopoly.

I would love to spend time to obtain materials, manufacture, invent and fly into battle something which actually has a chance in combat. I don't want safety - but I want to spend the isk to give me a chance of survival at the very least.

At the moment the numerous ships modules and rigs only seem to serve the economy and not the player.

Is there any way around this? or are all our fitting options just a moot point?


* Shouldn't this be an 'in game' feature by now?

There is plenty of solo/small gang fun to be had in EVE if that is what you want. You just need to learn how to find it. I think this is where EVE differs from most other games because you need in-game skills and some effort to get what you want; it is not just handed to you on a platter. Yeah, EVE is what it is.

In EVE you set your own goals and if you work for them you will be rewarded. If your goal is to fly solo/small gang blinged ships in EVE then work for it and it will happen. But here is the catch, if you are bad at EVE you will probably not be able to afford fielding them too often without putting in $$ on top of your sub. If you are good, however, you might find yourself in a situation where you fly them all the time because you have found a way to make lots of ISK, fly with people of similar caliber and you have learned to pick your fights.

I am terrible at EVE but I can still point you towards FW where you will find lots of solo/small gang PvP and good ISK making potential so you can afford to bling a ship every now and then if you want too. And it is even causal friendly!

Edit: And fitting a point is rarely moot, especially if you fly solo.