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Multiboxer, looking for advice about finding a place in this universe
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1c3crysta1
Silent Majority.
Aspartame.
#1 - 2014-05-13 21:42:59 UTC
I'm currently triple-boxing and I like it. It's more hectic and more fun to make isk imo. The problem is that I haven't really found an activity that'd suit my needs with it. I like to PvE, I'll admit that, but I want to PvP aswell, albeit with only one account (except alt scouting maybe). So far I've been jumping back and fourth between null-sec and wh-space, with emphasis on C4 wormholes and I haven't really found my place yet. Null-sec PvE is easy, but when I last did it, I had problems with getting the speed up enough to warrant using 3 accounts for it. It might have been a question of training, I only went about it about a month, over a year ago. WH-space on the other hand is awesome when there's sites to do, but I find myself spending most of my time to rolling holes and securing systems to grind in. I've mostly done things solo, which might be the problem. I find myself to be bored nowadays and want to change things, the question is into what.
I've thought about smashing missions into oblivion, but I feel like I could do better than that.
Incursions is unknown territory for me and I've heard that multiboxers are frowned upon.
Nullsec have had my renewned interrest for me, I'm currently trying out things on Singularity. But my gaming time and dedication to the game is unstable, which seems to rug null-sec corps the wrong way.
Wormholes can be fun, but its so damn tedious to do things alone. But on the other hand, while I don't know to much about the issue, trust and the POS-mechanics is a big reason why I haven't really tried.

Do you have any thoughts on what the best choice would be?
And are there any other active activities that can shine with multiboxing?
Carniflex
StarHunt
Mordus Angels
#2 - 2014-05-14 04:12:30 UTC
About null sec. You could try to do NPC null - it's more similar to low sec with bubbles than traditional sov null in a sense that pvp is more reliant on player personal skill than pressing F1 from time to time when FC tells one to do that - but it also depends a lot on group you are with if you have a good time or not. Unless you are exceptionally good at solo pvp going at NPC null solo is like jumping into pool of piranhas with bleeding toe. You can do null sec L4's in NPC null as well. But it's somewhat different from how they are done in hi sec but as you have WH experience you are already quite competent with dirscanner so it should not be a problem as long as you can stay reasonably focused.

Trick is to find a good group to hang with. Usually the activity requirements in NPC null are not as strict as in sov null but you can find good corps even in sov null that are not all that anal about activity as long as you are seen sort of doing stuff every once in a while.

I, for example, quite love it in Mordus Angels - plenty of targets, always something going on and if there is nothing you can blitz few L3's or L4's while things heat up. And the drama levels are lot lower than your traditional sov holding alliance in a coalition. Just takes a little time to get used to when coming from traditional sov warfare. In the latter the content is basically "spoonfed" to people by mandatory fleets, in here it's an opportunity you will have to take (most of the time, we do occasional structure grind as well). Stain is also pretty nice. Curse (and station system in great wildlands) is a bit too populated for my tastes in most spots. Have no experience really in other NPC regions.

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Suvitta
Colossus Corp
#3 - 2014-05-14 04:12:42 UTC
I here Goons have recently opened up and are once again accepting applications. Deklein is as safe as a blueberry frosted doughnut
Batelle
Federal Navy Academy
#4 - 2014-05-14 20:15:09 UTC
nullsec pve is best suited to multiboxing. Log in, find anomalies, log off whenever. Stay in the same system, don't travel, salvage 3-7 sites at a time. Put multiple ships in a site or put one in each site.

incursions can be multiboxed, but from what I can tell you're either in someone else's fleet, or multiboxing an entire one by yourself. Not much of a niche for 3-4 account multiboxers unless you're really experienced and the FC trusts you.

Missions are the least suitable for multiboxing IMO. There's lots of travel time, you need to deal with standings and getting agent access for multiple characters, and each mission is a bit different and has its own triggers and optimal clearing strategy. Multiboxing epic arcs is pretty cool though if you have access on multiple characters. Greater rewards, same amount of travel.

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1c3crysta1
Silent Majority.
Aspartame.
#5 - 2014-05-15 14:53:29 UTC
Carniflex wrote:
About null sec. You could try to do NPC null - it's more similar to low sec with bubbles than traditional sov null in a sense that pvp is more reliant on player personal skill than pressing F1 from time to time when FC tells one to do that - but it also depends a lot on group you are with if you have a good time or not. Unless you are exceptionally good at solo pvp going at NPC null solo is like jumping into pool of piranhas with bleeding toe. You can do null sec L4's in NPC null as well. But it's somewhat different from how they are done in hi sec but as you have WH experience you are already quite competent with dirscanner so it should not be a problem as long as you can stay reasonably focused.

Trick is to find a good group to hang with. Usually the activity requirements in NPC null are not as strict as in sov null but you can find good corps even in sov null that are not all that anal about activity as long as you are seen sort of doing stuff every once in a while.

I, for example, quite love it in Mordus Angels - plenty of targets, always something going on and if there is nothing you can blitz few L3's or L4's while things heat up. And the drama levels are lot lower than your traditional sov holding alliance in a coalition. Just takes a little time to get used to when coming from traditional sov warfare. In the latter the content is basically "spoonfed" to people by mandatory fleets, in here it's an opportunity you will have to take (most of the time, we do occasional structure grind as well). Stain is also pretty nice. Curse (and station system in great wildlands) is a bit too populated for my tastes in most spots. Have no experience really in other NPC regions.


I understand that NPC null is more active in forms of PvP, but that means that I won't get any peace when I'm about to PvE. There's nothing to stop me from simply getting over to NPC null if I'm bored when I want to shoot someone, but it won't work the other way around since the citizens will go nuts if I try to plex in their sov space Bear
As I understand it, the value in NPC null sec is to be independant from the big fishes. Or am I missing a big point?


Suvitta wrote:
I here Goons have recently opened up and are once again accepting applications. Deklein is as safe as a blueberry frosted doughnut


Great tip, didn't know about that. I'll check it out.

Batelle wrote:
nullsec pve is best suited to multiboxing. Log in, find anomalies, log off whenever. Stay in the same system, don't travel, salvage 3-7 sites at a time. Put multiple ships in a site or put one in each site.

incursions can be multiboxed, but from what I can tell you're either in someone else's fleet, or multiboxing an entire one by yourself. Not much of a niche for 3-4 account multiboxers unless you're really experienced and the FC trusts you.

Missions are the least suitable for multiboxing IMO. There's lots of travel time, you need to deal with standings and getting agent access for multiple characters, and each mission is a bit different and has its own triggers and optimal clearing strategy. Multiboxing epic arcs is pretty cool though if you have access on multiple characters. Greater rewards, same amount of travel.


I agree with you, missioning is probably not optimal for my playstyle. I would've hoped that incursion-runners would be more understanding, since shooting NPCs require multitasking to keep the mind occupied Lol
Do you think it would help if I got some experience with a single pilot first and then explained that I'm not tabbing around, but rather using one screen per client?
Royce Kado
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#6 - 2014-05-15 19:17:41 UTC
Find a nullsec corp with a ratting system that's been upgraded. Not only will the ratting income be better but with 3 active accounts you can setup some good PI production for extra income.
Leyline777
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#7 - 2014-05-23 21:29:48 UTC
I would agree with the sov null sec folks. Multiboxing is really nice in any decent sov holding alliance (read, not renters). However, the big elephant in the room which no one has addressed and which I feel could really help you is multiboxing fw level 4s. They only require stealth bombers (except if you are gallente (dont be at low sp)) and make shameful amounts of isk even when the tiers are pretty low. They are also very multiboxer friendly if you set up accounts with the same fitting etc and offer a degree of safety while also letting you get your dose of pvp close to hisec. They have the advantage of not being demanding on your time except when you wish to play and also for having a lot of small ship fights which make for great fun.

Also, very few goons are recruiting. I am a cfc member and while most goons are actually really great spacebros (towards cfcers at least) there are a few who will take everything you have. If you don't already know a goon well personally, be at least very suspicious about recruitment.
GordonO
BURN EDEN
#8 - 2014-05-27 00:19:51 UTC
If you just after making isk with the tripple box.. go to null, join a corp in an upgraded system.
find the 2 ships which work best for that region, in guristas null I used a ham tengu and a shield domi, less micro management this way, to run forsaken hubs. Tengu has 1k dps domi has 800. assign drones to tengu pilot and blap away. back to back you can do 23mil per tick on each toon. When you land drop mtu, before you warp off, pick it up.
Put 3rd toon in a noctis with salvager drones. follow behind, drop mtu and salvager drones, do nothing more except to warp to next completed site.

ignore leyline777.. you make more isk if you are a renter.. no corp bull, no cta's and all the benefits.
mail me if you need more info or advice on where to go.
easy isk.. easy as Blink

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Fango Mango
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2014-05-27 05:26:14 UTC
Multibox L5s

Even with the depressed LP @ 700 Isk/Lp you're still looking at around 640 Mil / Hour.

-FM