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Returning player - Skill issues
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Molphious
Warsaw Pact
#1 - 2014-05-13 16:38:18 UTC
Hi, I am a returning player. I have not played in many years and I have a few questions. I noticed that when I expand my skills a green notification showing "unallocated skill points" . The points show about 1.2m. How could this occur?

Secondly, I am piloting a vagabond and am still able to use it, however my skill tree shows that I should not be able to do so because i am missing "capacitor management". However the skill "Power Grid Management" is at III. I am not sure what is going on here.

thanks in advance for your help.

Jason
Molphious
Warsaw Pact
#2 - 2014-05-13 17:17:19 UTC
Also, I see a skill missing for flying the Mackinaw. The skill is Mining Frigate, however I do already have Mining Barge to 5 and Exhumers to 4. The ship also shows up if I go into EVEMon and select "Ships I can Fly"
350125GO
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#3 - 2014-05-13 17:28:35 UTC
Welcome back.

A while ago (not sure as I just returned in march after 4 years) CCP removed all learning skills from the game. To balance this they allocated all sp you had in them into a queue which you can now apply to any skills you want.

They also changed skills necessary to fly certain ships. In doing this they made it so if you were already able to fly something before the change, you would still be able to do so after, which is how you can fly the mack and vaga without the required skills.

You're young, you'll adjust. I'm old, I'll get used to it.
Molphious
Warsaw Pact
#4 - 2014-05-13 17:43:47 UTC
Oh wow, that's interesting. I didn't even think to look for my learning skills once I got back.

So I will just need to look at eve mon from now on to determine if I can fly a specific ship now?

thanks for the response!

Jason
Joshua Foiritain
Coreli Corporation
Pandemic Legion
#5 - 2014-05-13 18:35:03 UTC
Molphious wrote:
Oh wow, that's interesting. I didn't even think to look for my learning skills once I got back.

So I will just need to look at eve mon from now on to determine if I can fly a specific ship now?

thanks for the response!

Jason

No if you show info a ship ingame and the top skill in the list is green (for example Heavy assault ships for your vaga) then you can fly it regardeless of what skills you are missing further down in the tree.

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350125GO
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#6 - 2014-05-13 19:18:25 UTC
Joshua Foiritain wrote:
Molphious wrote:
Oh wow, that's interesting. I didn't even think to look for my learning skills once I got back.

So I will just need to look at eve mon from now on to determine if I can fly a specific ship now?

thanks for the response!

Jason

No if you show info a ship ingame and the top skill in the list is green (for example Heavy assault ships for your vaga) then you can fly it regardeless of what skills you are missing further down in the tree.


Yeah, show info on a ship (or module) and there's a "requirements" tab that will show you if you can fly or use it.

To use the unallocated skill points you have to pause any training (may even have to have an empty skill queue) and then right click on the skill. You'll get an option to apply unallocated skillpoints and it will ask you how many you want to apply, with the max being the amount needed to complete the skill to the next level.

This came in handy for me when I returned.

You're young, you'll adjust. I'm old, I'll get used to it.
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
#7 - 2014-05-13 19:26:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Tau Cabalander
This confuses a LOT of people.

Ships require very few skills, typically less than 4: primary, secondary, tertiary, quaternary. All the other skills are prerequisites for these skills.

Example: Carriers require 2 skills, Primary = Capital Ships 1, Secondary = Racial Carrier 1.

If you look on the the info, the left-most skills are the required. If you have the primary, secondary, etc., skills showing as green, then you can use that ship.

The other skills are prerequisites for injecting the required skill. If you already have the skill injected, these prerequisites don't apply to you.

Dev Blog - The great ship skill changes of summer 2013

List of newly added skills, sorted by date

Incursion 1.5, May 19, 2011 [Dev Blog - Agents Made Easy]
- Bureucratic Connections [Skill Points Refunded]
- Distribution Connections [Skill Points Refunded]
- Financial Connections [Skill Points Refunded]
- High Tech Connections [Skill Points Refunded]
- Labor Connections [Skill Points Refunded]
- Military Connections [Skill Points Refunded]
- Mining Connections [Skill Points Refunded]
- Political Connections [Skill Points Refunded]
- Security Connections [Skill Points Refunded]
- Trade Connections [Skill Points Refunded]
+ Distribution Connections
+ Mining Connections
+ Security Connections

Incursion 1.0.1, Dec 14, 2010 [Dev Blog - Learning skills are going away]
- Analytical Mind [Skill Points Refunded]
- Empathy [Skill Points Refunded]
- Instant Recall [Skill Points Refunded]
- Iron Will [Skill Points Refunded]
- Spatial Awareness [Skill Points Refunded]
- Clarity [Skill Points Refunded]
- Eidetic Memory [Skill Points Refunded]
- Focus [Skill Points Refunded]
- Logic [Skill Points Refunded]
- Presence [Skill Points Refunded]

CCP has also given out about 200k SP for extended periods of downtime.