These forums have been archived and are now read-only.

The new forums are live and can be found at https://forums.eveonline.com/

Missions & Complexes

 
  • Topic is locked indefinitely.
 

Navy Vexor High DED3/4 Fit
Author
Previous Topic Next Topic
Lunasa Zora
Rattini Tribe
Minmatar Fleet Alliance
#1 - 2014-05-13 04:07:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Lunasa Zora
Hello, just wanted some advise on my fit below to be used for DED 3/4 in high sec (Gallente space):

[Vexor Navy Issue, Complex]

Shadow Serpentis Armor Thermic Hardener
Shadow Serpentis Armor Kinetic Hardener
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Medium Armor Repairer II

Omnidirectional Tracking Link I (Tracking Speed Script)
Omnidirectional Tracking Link I (Tracking Speed Script)
Cap Recharger II
10MN Afterburner II

250mm Prototype Gauss Gun, Iridium Charge M
250mm Prototype Gauss Gun, Iridium Charge M
Sisters Core Probe Launcher
Drone Link Augmentor I

Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I
Medium Auxiliary Pump I

Hobgoblin II x5
Hammerhead II x5
Garde I x5

Stats:
13,888 EHP
Reps 89dps
517 dps
Cap lasts 3m 19secs (7m 37sec if using a 3rd CCC)

EDIT: 365/387.5 CPU used! (enough to fit t2 guns when I can use them)

Does anyone have any recommendations to improve the fit?
Should I drop the Aux Pump for a 3rd CCC to increase the cap?
Still with 250's or go 200's for better range?

Thanks.
Tauranon
Weeesearch
CAStabouts
#2 - 2014-05-13 04:26:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Tauranon
The only issue is burst tank for sniping the battleship in the ded 4. I'd go with burst tank, not burst cap, as you have, and I'd stick with 200s because the batteship is approaching you quickly anyway, and 200 with antimatter have reasonable tracking for clearing frigates throughout both 3 and 4.

You can turn the guns off if you are struggling with cap to get a couple more cycles of reps out to kill the battleship, and you just loot and scoot or if there is nobody around, kill him, bm wreck and warp out.
Lunasa Zora
Rattini Tribe
Minmatar Fleet Alliance
#3 - 2014-05-13 07:10:07 UTC
Tauranon wrote:
The only issue is burst tank for sniping the battleship in the ded 4. I'd go with burst tank, not burst cap, as you have, and I'd stick with 200s because the batteship is approaching you quickly anyway, and 200 with antimatter have reasonable tracking for clearing frigates throughout both 3 and 4.

You can turn the guns off if you are struggling with cap to get a couple more cycles of reps out to kill the battleship, and you just loot and scoot or if there is nobody around, kill him, bm wreck and warp out.


Thanks for the reply; I understand the concept of burst tank but not burst cap - and I'm a little unsure of how to amend the fitting based on your suggestions (aside from the guns of course)
Tauranon
Weeesearch
CAStabouts
#4 - 2014-05-13 08:43:44 UTC
Lunasa Zora wrote:
Tauranon wrote:
The only issue is burst tank for sniping the battleship in the ded 4. I'd go with burst tank, not burst cap, as you have, and I'd stick with 200s because the batteship is approaching you quickly anyway, and 200 with antimatter have reasonable tracking for clearing frigates throughout both 3 and 4.

You can turn the guns off if you are struggling with cap to get a couple more cycles of reps out to kill the battleship, and you just loot and scoot or if there is nobody around, kill him, bm wreck and warp out.


Thanks for the reply; I understand the concept of burst tank but not burst cap - and I'm a little unsure of how to amend the fitting based on your suggestions (aside from the guns of course)


I probably meant to type sustained cap - my bad :)

I don't think you need to change the fit. If you do need to tank more, you'll probably need to tank a lot more, which means another cap recharger and another hardener anyway (not a bad idea for learning the serpentis watch if you decide to do it).
Lunasa Zora
Rattini Tribe
Minmatar Fleet Alliance
#5 - 2014-05-13 08:47:14 UTC
Ah ok :), so 3 1/2 mins of cap will be enough to burst tank the BC's? or shall I upgrade to 7mins with another CCC?
Tauranon
Weeesearch
CAStabouts
#6 - 2014-05-13 09:50:59 UTC
Lunasa Zora wrote:
Ah ok :), so 3 1/2 mins of cap will be enough to burst tank the BC's? or shall I upgrade to 7mins with another CCC?


Should be - part of the time the overseer will be shooting your shield anyway, and the dps mightn't be strong immediately so you can cycle the rep a bit too. The encounter occasionally shoots a drone that will usually successfully tank that part of the damage too.

There isn't actually a lot of efficiency difference - ie if you pulse the rep so its cycling ~85% of the time, it will have the same amount repped and ~85% of the cap draw. The only reason you don't wind up with same cap time by cycling 85% is because some of the cap is used by AB and guns.

I have tanked it with a blaster/mixed drone vexor simply by working my way close on angles, diving in and orbiting it and overheating the tank towards the end. Obviously 10m hull prepared to take more risks flying it in fun ways.
ChromeStriker
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#7 - 2014-05-13 13:20:59 UTC
[Vexor Navy Issue, DED Hi]
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Armor Thermic Hardener II
Armor Kinetic Hardener II
Medium Armor Repairer II

10MN Microwarpdrive II
Omnidirectional Tracking Link II, Optimal Range Script
Omnidirectional Tracking Link II, Optimal Range Script
Medium Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 200

Core Probe Launcher II, Sisters Core Scanner Probe
200mm Railgun II, Iron Charge M
Small Tractor Beam I
[empty high slot]

Medium Processor Overclocking Unit I
Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump II
Medium Anti-Explosive Pump II

Garde II x5
Hobgoblin II x6
Garde II x1
Medium Armor Maintenance Bot I x1
Medium Hull Maintenance Bot I x1

Id use this, pull range, drop sentries, blap things as they come closer swapping omni scrips as needed.
Pimp if you want.

I use this, and it does fine... and all the other exploration sites....

[Stratios, Amarr Space]
Corpum C-Type Energized EM Membrane
Centum C-Type Energized Thermic Membrane
Corpum C-Type Medium Armor Repairer
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II

10MN Microwarpdrive II
Relic Analyzer II
Data Analyzer II
Cargo Scanner II
Medium Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 200

Covert Ops Cloaking Device II
Sisters Core Probe Launcher, Sisters Core Scanner Probe
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Multifrequency M
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Multifrequency M
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Multifrequency M

Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I
Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump II
Medium Anti-Explosive Pump II

Bouncer II x4
Garde II x4
Hammerhead II x5
Warrior II x5
Hobgoblin II x5
Light Armor Maintenance Bot I x2
Salvage Drone I x5
Vespa EC-600 x5
Hobgoblin II x1
Hammerhead II x1

If you want to scrap it out up close... why use rails and sentries?

No Worries
Nam Dnilb
Universal Frog
#8 - 2014-05-13 16:21:59 UTC
If your skills allow for it, meaning your drone control range doesn't go down too much, you could lose the "Drone Link Augmentor I ". This should free enough CPU for a large cap battery in place of the cap recharger, which should alleviate all capacitor problems you might have.

Tractor beam, or remote repper could go into the empty high slot. Both useful.
Omnathious Deninard
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2014-05-15 05:24:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Omnathious Deninard
Here is the Vexor Navy Issue fit I use.

{High}
250mm Railgun II (Federation Navy Antimatter Charge M)
250mm Railgun II (Federation Navy Antimatter Charge M)
Sisers Core Probe Launcher (Sisters Core Scanner Probe
[Empty]
{Mid}
10mn Afterburner II
Medium Capacitor Booster II (Cap Booster 200)
Sensor Booster II (Scan Resolution Script)
Omnidirectional Tracking Computer II (Tracking Speed Script)
{Low}
Medium Armor Repairer II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Damage Control II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
{Rigs}
Medium Anti-Explosive Pump I
Medium Auxillary Nano Pump I
Medium Sentry Damage Augmentor I

{Drones}
Hobgoblin II
Hammerhead II
Garde II

[Stats]
EHP 24K
DPS 791
Cap 28% Stable w/ Booster Charges 1m57s w/o booster charges
632m/s

This will any high sec rated complex, and most unrated complexes.

Its tight on CPU 362/364, though if you wish to use only T2 modules you can plug in a 3% CPU inplant (which is about 1/2 the cost of a sisters probe launcher) and that will give you the needed CPU for the T2 Core Probe Launcher.

If you don't follow the rules, neither will I.
Corraidhin Farsaidh
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2014-05-16 08:47:42 UTC
Omnathious Deninard wrote:
Here is the Vexor Navy Issue fit I use.

{High}
250mm Railgun II (Federation Navy Antimatter Charge M)
250mm Railgun II (Federation Navy Antimatter Charge M)
Sisers Core Probe Launcher (Sisters Core Scanner Probe
[Empty]
{Mid}
10mn Afterburner II
Medium Capacitor Booster II (Cap Booster 200)
Sensor Booster II (Scan Resolution Script)
Omnidirectional Tracking Computer II (Tracking Speed Script)
{Low}
Medium Armor Repairer II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Damage Control II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
{Rigs}
Medium Anti-Explosive Pump I
Medium Auxillary Nano Pump I
Medium Sentry Damage Augmentor I

{Drones}
Hobgoblin II
Hammerhead II
Garde II

[Stats]
EHP 24K
DPS 791
Cap 28% Stable w/ Booster Charges 1m57s w/o booster charges
632m/s

This will any high sec rated complex, and most unrated complexes.

Its tight on CPU 362/364, though if you wish to use only T2 modules you can plug in a 3% CPU inplant (which is about 1/2 the cost of a sisters probe launcher) and that will give you the needed CPU for the T2 Core Probe Launcher.


Would it be worth carrying a yurt to refit the probe launcher for another couple of rail II's? Any extra dps will speed up the combat a little
Dark Lightstrong
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#11 - 2014-05-20 00:47:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Dark Lightstrong
It's kinda late for me to post this, but this works for me in 3/10 and 4/10 DED and in Unrated Complexes like Serpentis Vigil.

I do have 522 dps in this thing and the sentries kill the BS in 4/10 when it comes to close range. It hits it even when it's as close as 3km. If frigates get close enough for sentries to miss them (usually closer than 10km) I recall sentries and get Hobgoblins II out. I have yet to use Hammerheads II.

[Vexor Navy Issue, no lollygaggin]
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Medium Armor Repairer II
Corelum C-Type Energized Thermic Membrane FACTION SPECIFIC
Corpum C-Type Energized Kinetic Membrane FACTION SPECIFIC

Omnidirectional Tracking Link I, Optimal Range Script
Omnidirectional Tracking Link I, Optimal Range Script
Omnidirectional Tracking Link I, Optimal Range Script
Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I

Drone Link Augmentor I
[empty high slot]
[empty high slot]
[empty high slot]

Medium Anti-Kinetic Pump I FACTION SPECIFIC
Medium Anti-Thermic Pump I FACTION SPECIFIC
Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I

Hobgoblin II x5
Hammerhead II x5
Federation Navy Garde x5