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Ore is being harvested 50% faster than tears

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Dave Stark
#281 - 2014-05-12 09:08:26 UTC
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Nevyn Auscent wrote:
Perhaps the bile some miners spew has to do with the constant bile spewed at them about being botters, being scum, being worthless etc....
Look at yourself and how you paint them before you throw stones at their behaviour.


Then they should probably stop botting so much.


so should all the people in null sec with their ishtars.
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#282 - 2014-05-12 09:17:45 UTC
Dave Stark wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Nevyn Auscent wrote:
Perhaps the bile some miners spew has to do with the constant bile spewed at them about being botters, being scum, being worthless etc....
Look at yourself and how you paint them before you throw stones at their behaviour.


Then they should probably stop botting so much.


so should all the people in null sec with their ishtars.


If those guys are botting, then yeah, I agree.

I'm talking about the part where CCP says the vast majority of bots are found in highsec, and of those the majority are miners.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#283 - 2014-05-12 09:18:28 UTC
Desimus Maximus wrote:
Why doesn't someone in null grow a pair and drop some SBUs.. oh right, they are all blue to each other or have pretend space accords to not fight.

Can't imagine why new players leave when they see all the big boys with big guns acting like pu$$ies.

Did B-R just cut everyone's balls off?

Nullsec warfare undergoes quiet and active periods. We're in a quiet period right now because the last war ended and the next one hasn't started yet. The pieces are still being moved into place. It will happen though.
This isn't a surprise to anyone who isn't a mouthbreathing forum carebear.

Dave Stark wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Nevyn Auscent wrote:
Perhaps the bile some miners spew has to do with the constant bile spewed at them about being botters, being scum, being worthless etc....
Look at yourself and how you paint them before you throw stones at their behaviour.


Then they should probably stop botting so much.


so should all the people in null sec with their ishtars.

The vast majority of bots are in highsec.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
Dave Stark
#284 - 2014-05-12 09:20:38 UTC
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Dave Stark wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Nevyn Auscent wrote:
Perhaps the bile some miners spew has to do with the constant bile spewed at them about being botters, being scum, being worthless etc....
Look at yourself and how you paint them before you throw stones at their behaviour.


Then they should probably stop botting so much.


so should all the people in null sec with their ishtars.


If those guys are botting, then yeah, I agree.

I'm talking about the part where CCP says the vast majority of bots are found in highsec, and of those the majority are miners.


that's probably because you can get max yield [for ice] from a 1 month old account. you can't get max anything out of a 1 month old character for anything else.
hardly surprising most bots are mining [i suspect, ice] due to the low barrier to entry even if the isk is poor, the return on investment is quicker (and probably ultimately higher if the accounts get banned rapidly).

if other activities yielded such 'good' results for such a low sp investment then i'm sure they'd be heavily botted.
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#285 - 2014-05-12 09:22:04 UTC
I don't recall FW being heavily botted yet it had an even lower SP investment for significantly higher returns.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
Dave Stark
#286 - 2014-05-12 09:22:10 UTC
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
The vast majority of bots are in highsec.

so that means the ishtars are also bots, because not all bots are in high sec. execllent.
(yes, i'm being intentionally awkward.)
Good Posting
Doomheim
#287 - 2014-05-12 09:23:27 UTC
There isn't much pvp (ship vs ship) in this game compared to its number of players. 20 vs 3 gets old the sooner or later for both parties, but fortunately eve has to offer more than that.
Dave Stark
#288 - 2014-05-12 09:23:27 UTC
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
I don't recall FW being heavily botted yet it had an even lower SP investment for significantly higher returns.

'yet'
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#289 - 2014-05-12 09:23:32 UTC
Dave Stark wrote:
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
The vast majority of bots are in highsec.

so that means the a small handful of ishtars are also bots, because not all bots are in high sec. execllent.
(yes, i'm being intentionally awkward.)

ftfy

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
Dave Stark
#290 - 2014-05-12 09:24:51 UTC
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
Dave Stark wrote:
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
The vast majority of bots are in highsec.

so that means the a small handful of ishtars are also bots, because not all bots are in high sec. execllent.
(yes, i'm being intentionally awkward.)

ftfy

good catch.
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#291 - 2014-05-12 09:26:10 UTC  |  Edited by: James Amril-Kesh
Really though the Ishtar doesn't even need to be botted, it practically bots itself.

A lot of players in null rat with AFK Ishtars which involves as you might expect launching drones and allowing them to auto-aggress rats while you leave EVE minimized and surf porn or something. There's a program you can get which will also display just a portion of an active window as screen overlay so you can keep track of local even with the client minimized. Since this is purely a function of the Windows GUI (I don't know of similar programs in other OSs) it's not a client modification, and there's no automation being done, so this is all perfectly kosher with the TOS and EULA.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
Dave Stark
#292 - 2014-05-12 09:26:33 UTC
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
Really though the ishtar doesn't even need to be botted, it practically bots itself.

as does mining.
but apparently, people still do. vOv
Oxide Ammar
#293 - 2014-05-12 09:52:57 UTC
Rivals of yesterday are pretty much the same rivals of today, why everybody keeps talking about next war like it is scheduled TV Show ?!

Lady Areola Fappington:  Solo PVP isn't dead!  You just need to make sure you have your booster, remote rep, cyno, and emergency Falcon alts logged in and ready before you do any solo PVPing.
Vhelnik Cojoin
Pandemic Horde High Sec Division
#294 - 2014-05-12 10:28:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Vhelnik Cojoin
Nevyn Auscent wrote:
Perhaps the bile some miners spew has to do with the constant bile spewed at them about being botters, being scum, being worthless etc....

That doesn't seem to explain why they mostly won't chat / interact with other local miners.

Also, Miniluv, the NO campaign, suicide ganking and similar activities by whichever names you wish to call them, has been a constant in New Eden ever since I started playing years ago. Jihadswarm, anyone?

Have you Communicated with your fellow capsuleers today? It is good for the EvE-oconomy and o-kay for you.
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#295 - 2014-05-12 11:35:43 UTC
Nevyn Auscent wrote:
Perhaps the bile some miners spew has to do with the constant bile spewed at them about being botters, being scum, being worthless etc....
Look at yourself and how you paint them before you throw stones at their behaviour.


The worst bile about botters and also ISBoxers is from miners in the Anti-Gank channel.

If you could show me where actual miners and not ranting carebears have been called scum and worthless, then I can accept your position.

Until then, Ill throw my sympathy to the folk who havent threatened to **** my mom, thanks

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#296 - 2014-05-12 11:37:21 UTC
Vhelnik Cojoin wrote:
Nevyn Auscent wrote:
Perhaps the bile some miners spew has to do with the constant bile spewed at them about being botters, being scum, being worthless etc....

That doesn't seem to explain why they mostly won't chat / interact with other local miners.

Also, Miniluv, the NO campaign, suicide ganking and similar activities by whichever names you wish to call them, has been a constant in New Eden ever since I started playing years ago. Jihadswarm, anyone?


Indeed

And I dont recall anyone calling foul in regards to Standards and Practices campaigns against Joe Phoenix and Socratic

These days Im sure good ole Zedrik Cayne would be called a "bully", a "sociopath" and a "Hister"

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann
Drak Morgan
Society of the Prevention of Cruelty to Drones
#297 - 2014-05-12 12:05:11 UTC
So who is willing to donate a few caps to the cause so that tears can get harvested in the next 23 and change hours? Gotta get those drones people. :)

Last night I watch a few attempts at miner tears that got Concorded in a 0.5 in less that 30 seconds. That poor abused orca with his shields only barely dented got to loot and salvage 3 cruisers with t2 fits, it such an unfair world for those poor picked on miners. (And I'm sure these efforts amounting <300mil loses didn't get added to the isk destroyed.)