EVE New Citizens Q&A

Even with decent leadership, a skilled PvP corp can make life miserable for a small industrial corp. My corp was decc'ed for about a month straight by one group and that stalled pretty much all high-sec activities.

One thing I noted is that they typically don't go into low-sec (because then they might actually meet a challenge). Maybe it's different for different corps, but if you've ever wanted to get into jaspet mining, now is the time.

Generally, unless they're being paid they're in it for fun (maybe profit), so focus on surviving. Make undock bookmarks, travel in shuttles/fast frigs whenever possible, if you must move something large then stack up warp stabilizers. Always have a local tab open, and use the watchlist for the most active members. If your killboard is blank for a week or two they should drop it.

Fighting back isn't a terrible idea, but if you don't do very well that might just encourage them to continue the war. Some PvP players would rather lose a good fight than not find any at all.

A war dec does not mean instant death upon undocking. Local is your friend.

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Tornadoes field LARGE turrets and are glass cannons. Bring a "regular" battlecruiser (i.e. not the Oracle/Tornado/Talos/Naga) ... or a cruiser (might need 2) ... or a handful of frigs, and keep your transversal up -- so long as you don't use a MWD, you should be able to get under their guns relatively easily. Remember, you only need one (1!) point on them to keep them around .... so have a few guys catch them and orbit close ... there's nothing they can do to kill you.

Hell you don't even need to ~kill~ them ... just hold them on field for a while (assuming you can bait them into a belt or to a moon or pinpoint their 100KM from station sniping spot).

Such is the nature of EVE though -- you're allowed to do whatever you want .... and that other guy is allowed to do whatever he wants. Sometimes you can get along well enough, and other times neither of you can do a damn thing.

Really, you don't need "a lot" of PvP skills for EVE. Nearly everything has a counter, and on top of that, with the (ongoing) tiericide efforts from CCP a lot of the ships are more viable than they've ever been in the past ... you can really ruin someone's day even with a "lowly" cruiser.

Furthermore, if this is a "typical" wardec corp, they probably have 2+ wars going right now ... so hit up one of their other WTs and see about working together. A LOT of the time, if you turn up and show you're not as unprepared as the deccer thought you were, they'll tend to stay away from you in the future (as you said -- they want easy kills).

Thank you, excellent info.
Unfortunately I completely refuse to use any resources for this "war".

I'm not sure I have the freedom to do whatever I want to do. If some random corporation War Decs you for no apparent reason, you have to comply and adjust your schedule to do that instead.

This will be a week where I'm doing what the others want to do: PvP in High Sec.

I'm not interested in that. I cba to start a different skill queue and fit frigates just because some guys are in the mood for safe ganking and want to hunt us down whenever we try to mine, run missions or move our goods. I am not going to be the target that they need. Not even if it's obvious I would win the fight. I'm simply not interested in their fight just as I'm not yet interested in any random duel.

It might be fun when I get enough skill points to not be gimped, but until then, I'm a level 10 against level 100.

I dont approve of this mechanic in its current form, it forces me to either:
1. Play the game the way the agressor wants you to play, by fighting him.
2. Stay docked for a week.
3. Try to avoid the WT, risking incomplete missions or being blocked in some random station when they come after you.

I'm not paying a monthly fee to be at the disposal of other players and I'm also not paying to stay docked.
I'm slowly starting to understand why people come fast and go just as fast. It's not about being hard or complex, that's the attraction, it's about losing assets to idiots for teh lulz.

It's a PVP game.

Perhaps that wasn't stressed enough when you started playing, or perhaps someone told you otherwise, but there it is. Simple as that.

Nearly everything you do in Eve is related to PVP in some way (with the possible exception of missioning for the sake of missioning which, as you'll find at some point, gets pretty darn boring).

Mining, buying/selling, exploration, most industry, actual ship fighting.... On some level, you are competing with other players for resources or to provide others with resources.

There are plenty of ways around high-sec war decs, but the simplest is to never leave the NPC corporation (or go back to one). If you don't wish to change what you do because "sum bulleez r being meen 2 me", then this probably isn't really the game for you, after all.

This game rewards people who are capable of adjusting what they do to meet the situations they face, whether it's a high sec wardec or a suprise supercap hotdrop. It is unforgiving for those who steadfastly refuse to change in the face of adversity.

Posting here will get you one of three responses:

1. Suggestions on how to adapt
2. Suggestions that you quit
3. People who laugh at your misfortune

I'm not trying to be arrogant or rude, here. I'm simply explaining the how & why, so you can make the decision, yourself. After all, if you aren't having fun (because you can't play for a week because someone war-dec'd you, or because this isn't the game you thought it was, or for whatever reason you might have), then what's the point of paying for the game?

High sec wars are my life. Let me cue you in on a little known secret. Undocking during war does not mean instant death.

Local is your friend. If no war targets in local, undock in a frig with a MWD and make yourself an instant undock to your station of choice. Hell - even if a war target is online, you still may be able to get away with this if they're not on station. If you undock, see them on station, then just dock again.

You have an instant undock now, so if no targets in local, undock and warp to your instant. Then go about business as usual in your system if you're a miner, with the only exception being to stay aligned to your station. Watch local like a hawk, and if a target jumps in, you dock. Easy.

If you're trying to haul or mission, that's a bit trickier. Hauling - only do with a scout so that you can dock should you find targets in the next system.

Missioning - use a scout when traveling to a new system, and fit a prototype cloak. Create a safe in each of your mission systems, then run your mission while being aligned to the safe as often as possible. Checking D-scan for combat probes would be ideal, but watching local is more important in my opinion. War target comes into system, warp to your safe and cloak, or dock in station. Either one.