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losec omen

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Tadas Estidal
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#1 - 2014-05-07 06:17:42 UTC
I'm interested in solo hunting some frigs with my biggest fear being neuts.I'm interested to hear how other pilots fly their omens.
If you've found omens,how do you usually counter them?
i can fit t2 meds or heavys,both shield or armor tank.
If anybody has any fits to share,i'd like to see them.
Last question,lets say im 24k ehp,how long would i be able to tank gate guns,aprox ofcourse

Thanks in advance.Fly safe.
xPredat0rz
Project.Nova
The Initiative.
#2 - 2014-05-07 06:28:40 UTC  |  Edited by: xPredat0rz
Tadas Estidal wrote:
I'm interested in solo hunting some frigs with my biggest fear being neuts.I'm interested to hear how other pilots fly their omens.
If you've found omens,how do you usually counter them?
i can fit t2 meds or heavys,both shield or armor tank.
If anybody has any fits to share,i'd like to see them.
Last question,lets say im 24k ehp,how long would i be able to tank gate guns,aprox ofcourse

Thanks in advance.Fly safe.



Well you can go shield kitey and just try to nuke tackle as it chases you. Problems being if something catches you your ******. I have seen a couple active armor fits...Those really dont like nuets.

Mini Ahac fits have been around. they arent terrible but the maller and Aug navy do it all better.


Gate guns do more damage the longer they shoot at you towards your weakest resist. So a shield tanked omen would only want to be on a gate tanking guns for maybe 7-10 seconds..
Tadas Estidal
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#3 - 2014-05-07 06:32:30 UTC
I'd rather fit shield buffer or armor buffer,less hassle with capacitor problems
Luwc
State War Academy
Caldari State
#4 - 2014-05-07 09:43:54 UTC  |  Edited by: Luwc
I used to run a DUAL REP Omen which is fun. The issue is that frigates can get under your guns and then you are basically dying to a T1 rifter...

The most common Omen is the Kiting one with an AAR. You basically light tackle up as its stupid enough to burn after you.

But as the previous post states. One you are webbed and scrammed you are kinda f*cked...

In a laserboat. Especially with the cruisers, you will always have issues with your cap i.e. capacitor management.

There is not really a way to get around this other than fitting a cap booster. Where you might as well want to active tank anyway.

Judging by what you want you might as well go for the infamous 100mn Omen (I am so gonna get smacked for this) :

[Omen, AREUSERIOUS]
Medium Ancillary Armor Repairer, Nanite Repair Paste
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Damage Control II
Heat Sink II
Tracking Enhancer II

Experimental 100MN Afterburner I
Small Capacitor Booster II, Navy Cap Booster 400
Warp Disruptor II

Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Scorch M

Medium Ancillary Current Router II
Medium Polycarbon Engine Housing I
Medium Polycarbon Engine Housing I

-

Sentry tanking sucks but on the other hand. engaging sh*t on a low sec gate is usualy a very bad idea unless you have back up.

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Tadas Estidal
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#5 - 2014-05-07 13:02:18 UTC
Dual rep as in AAR and a regular MAR?
Garviel Tarrant
Beyond Divinity Inc
Shadow Cartel
#6 - 2014-05-07 13:31:10 UTC
Luwc wrote:
I used to run a DUAL REP Omen which is fun. The issue is that frigates can get under your guns and then you are basically dying to a T1 rifter...

The most common Omen is the Kiting one with an AAR. You basically light tackle up as its stupid enough to burn after you.

But as the previous post states. One you are webbed and scrammed you are kinda f*cked...

In a laserboat. Especially with the cruisers, you will always have issues with your cap i.e. capacitor management.

There is not really a way to get around this other than fitting a cap booster. Where you might as well want to active tank anyway.

Judging by what you want you might as well go for the infamous 100mn Omen (I am so gonna get smacked for this) :

[Omen, AREUSERIOUS]
Medium Ancillary Armor Repairer, Nanite Repair Paste
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Damage Control II
Heat Sink II
Tracking Enhancer II

Experimental 100MN Afterburner I
Small Capacitor Booster II, Navy Cap Booster 400
Warp Disruptor II

Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Scorch M

Medium Ancillary Current Router II
Medium Polycarbon Engine Housing I
Medium Polycarbon Engine Housing I

-

Sentry tanking sucks but on the other hand. engaging sh*t on a low sec gate is usualy a very bad idea unless you have back up.


Thats probably one of the better things you can get out of the omen tbh, its not a great ship.

BYDI recruitment closed-ish

Tadas Estidal
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#7 - 2014-05-07 13:44:53 UTC
Garviel Tarrant wrote:
Luwc wrote:
I used to run a DUAL REP Omen which is fun. The issue is that frigates can get under your guns and then you are basically dying to a T1 rifter...

The most common Omen is the Kiting one with an AAR. You basically light tackle up as its stupid enough to burn after you.

But as the previous post states. One you are webbed and scrammed you are kinda f*cked...

In a laserboat. Especially with the cruisers, you will always have issues with your cap i.e. capacitor management.

There is not really a way to get around this other than fitting a cap booster. Where you might as well want to active tank anyway.

Judging by what you want you might as well go for the infamous 100mn Omen (I am so gonna get smacked for this) :

[Omen, AREUSERIOUS]
Medium Ancillary Armor Repairer, Nanite Repair Paste
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Damage Control II
Heat Sink II
Tracking Enhancer II

Experimental 100MN Afterburner I
Small Capacitor Booster II, Navy Cap Booster 400
Warp Disruptor II

Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Scorch M

Medium Ancillary Current Router II
Medium Polycarbon Engine Housing I
Medium Polycarbon Engine Housing I

-

Sentry tanking sucks but on the other hand. engaging sh*t on a low sec gate is usualy a very bad idea unless you have back up.


Thats probably one of the better things you can get out of the omen tbh, its not a great ship.



What other amarr cruiser do you think is better? Maller is tankier but alot slower.
Garviel Tarrant
Beyond Divinity Inc
Shadow Cartel
#8 - 2014-05-08 00:16:17 UTC
Tadas Estidal wrote:
Garviel Tarrant wrote:
Luwc wrote:
I used to run a DUAL REP Omen which is fun. The issue is that frigates can get under your guns and then you are basically dying to a T1 rifter...

The most common Omen is the Kiting one with an AAR. You basically light tackle up as its stupid enough to burn after you.

But as the previous post states. One you are webbed and scrammed you are kinda f*cked...

In a laserboat. Especially with the cruisers, you will always have issues with your cap i.e. capacitor management.

There is not really a way to get around this other than fitting a cap booster. Where you might as well want to active tank anyway.

Judging by what you want you might as well go for the infamous 100mn Omen (I am so gonna get smacked for this) :

[Omen, AREUSERIOUS]
Medium Ancillary Armor Repairer, Nanite Repair Paste
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Damage Control II
Heat Sink II
Tracking Enhancer II

Experimental 100MN Afterburner I
Small Capacitor Booster II, Navy Cap Booster 400
Warp Disruptor II

Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Scorch M

Medium Ancillary Current Router II
Medium Polycarbon Engine Housing I
Medium Polycarbon Engine Housing I

-

Sentry tanking sucks but on the other hand. engaging sh*t on a low sec gate is usualy a very bad idea unless you have back up.


Thats probably one of the better things you can get out of the omen tbh, its not a great ship.



What other amarr cruiser do you think is better? Maller is tankier but alot slower.


I think the arbitrator is solid if you dual rep it or something interesting. But yea id say the arbi and omen are similar and the maller is worst.

Amarr aren't really spoiled for choice when it comes to low level solo ships sadly. The Tormentor and slicer are decent, the omen and arbi are servicable.. But they don't really have any spectacular ships for that. But honestly with all these ships its generally more about how you use them than anything else.

A buddy of mine got a ton of kills with a dual rep AB only omen.. Which is a TERRIBLE FIT.. but he was using it in a very specific way so it worked out really well for him.


Ohh ohh ohh, i forgot actually, both the Coercer and Dragoon are badass.

BYDI recruitment closed-ish

Tadas Estidal
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#9 - 2014-05-08 10:02:13 UTC
Destroyers are awesome,but i hate that they're only viable with a max dps fit. They're great for killing inties and kite frigs.
Garviel Tarrant
Beyond Divinity Inc
Shadow Cartel
#10 - 2014-05-08 10:51:48 UTC
Tadas Estidal wrote:
Destroyers are awesome,but i hate that they're only viable with a max dps fit. They're great for killing inties and kite frigs.


They aren't only viable with max gank fits o.o

Dragoon does propless 400mm plate quite well ^^ Both the Dragoon and Coercer can take on most frigs and AF's, its only really the Hawk that is likely to kill them.

But yea the main point stands that sadly the Amarr cruiser lineup is a bit meh.

BYDI recruitment closed-ish

Tadas Estidal
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#11 - 2014-05-08 11:24:08 UTC
I'll have to try out the dragoon or just stick to a max gank coercer.
Thanks for the tips,i'll probably get my corp mates to join me if i want to fly my cruiser in losec.
Chessur
Full Broadside
Deepwater Hooligans
#12 - 2014-05-08 11:25:54 UTC
If I am just going to be hunting small stuff, I would make a super slicer. Something like this:

[Omen, New Setup 1]
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II
Damage Control II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II

Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I
Warp Disruptor II
X5 Prototype Engine Enervator

Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Scorch M

Medium Energy Metastasis Adjuster I
Medium Energy Locus Coordinator II
Medium Energy Locus Coordinator II

Warrior II x5
Warrior II x1


That will easily deal with any frig / Dessie in game. About 9K EHP and cap of 1:15 with everything running.
Aralieus
Shadowbane Syndicate
#13 - 2014-05-09 02:41:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Aralieus
Chessur wrote:
If I am just going to be hunting small stuff, I would make a super slicer. Something like this:

[Omen, New Setup 1]
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II
Damage Control II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II

Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I
Warp Disruptor II
X5 Prototype Engine Enervator

Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Scorch M

Medium Energy Metastasis Adjuster I
Medium Energy Locus Coordinator II
Medium Energy Locus Coordinator II

Warrior II x5
Warrior II x1


That will easily deal with any frig / Dessie in game. About 9K EHP and cap of 1:15 with everything running.


You're going to want some more tracking on this but all in all a solid fit for low sp solo work

Edit: also squeeze some HPL II's on, you will appreciate the range and damage alot more

Oderint Dum Metuant

Tadas Estidal
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#14 - 2014-05-09 07:24:56 UTC
Wonder how well hobgobs or warriors hurt frigs without any dmg mods for them,because if they get under my guns,im as good as dead.
Chessur
Full Broadside
Deepwater Hooligans
#15 - 2014-05-09 10:54:14 UTC
Aralieus wrote:
Chessur wrote:
If I am just going to be hunting small stuff, I would make a super slicer. Something like this:

[Omen, New Setup 1]
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II
Damage Control II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II

Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I
Warp Disruptor II
X5 Prototype Engine Enervator

Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Scorch M

Medium Energy Metastasis Adjuster I
Medium Energy Locus Coordinator II
Medium Energy Locus Coordinator II


Warrior II x5
Warrior II x1


That will easily deal with any frig / Dessie in game. About 9K EHP and cap of 1:15 with everything running.


You're going to want some more tracking on this but all in all a solid fit for low sp solo work

Edit: also squeeze some HPL II's on, you will appreciate the range and damage alot more


5\k Extra optimal with HPL, compared to focused medium- which provide a lot more tracking. Which i feel is more important vs frigs. You should be able to reduce a large amount of transversal with your speed. Along with your web, and fast tracking guns- ship should work quite nicely.
Valleria Darkmoon
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#16 - 2014-05-10 09:45:57 UTC
Aralieus wrote:
Chessur wrote:
If I am just going to be hunting small stuff, I would make a super slicer. Something like this:

[Omen, New Setup 1]
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II
Damage Control II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II

Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I
Warp Disruptor II
X5 Prototype Engine Enervator

Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Scorch M

Medium Energy Metastasis Adjuster I
Medium Energy Locus Coordinator II
Medium Energy Locus Coordinator II

Warrior II x5
Warrior II x1


That will easily deal with any frig / Dessie in game. About 9K EHP and cap of 1:15 with everything running.


You're going to want some more tracking on this but all in all a solid fit for low sp solo work

Edit: also squeeze some HPL II's on, you will appreciate the range and damage alot more

If you want HPLs you can drop a nano for a meta 4 reactor control and they will fit, but you lose a decent amount of speed, agility and tracking to gain about 50 dps and 3 km optimal (29 vs. 32) and reduces your cap life to a mere 1:06. Although you could also drop the web for a small cap booster if you're worried about cap life but that runs its own risks since it is easier for a frig to get in really close without the web. TBH I'm not sure that it would be worth it, 29 km optimal is fine if you intend to have a point on your target unless you intend to hold it by overloading with links.

Reality has an almost infinite capacity to resist oversimplification.

Tadas Estidal
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#17 - 2014-05-10 10:12:40 UTC
I'm thinking that tracking/web is more important than damage for hunting frigs,so i'll go with that. Combined with warriors i'm fairly certain i can take down most frigs pretty fast.
Voi Lutois
Vonkell
#18 - 2014-05-10 11:41:19 UTC
[Omen, Cheap NOMEN]

Damage Control II
Medium Ancillary Armor Repairer, Nanite Repair Paste
Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Heat Sink II
Heat Sink II
Tracking Enhancer II

Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I
Medium Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Navy Cap Booster 800
Warp Disruptor II

Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M
Heavy Pulse Laser II, Scorch M

Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I
Medium Ancillary Current Router I
Medium Ancillary Current Router I

Warrior II x5

This is the fit I used for the Omen, is fast and does okay damage. Kite 20-35km and pick off stuff that comes after you. Its like a fat slicer or a ****** Nomen.
Garviel Tarrant
Beyond Divinity Inc
Shadow Cartel
#19 - 2014-05-10 19:58:04 UTC
Tadas Estidal wrote:
I'm thinking that tracking/web is more important than damage for hunting frigs,so i'll go with that. Combined with warriors i'm fairly certain i can take down most frigs pretty fast.


If a frig gets a scram on you and it has a tank you are dead.

Your guns wont track and it will kill your drones. Sorry. The way to kill frigates in this ship is to not let them catch you.

BYDI recruitment closed-ish

Chessur
Full Broadside
Deepwater Hooligans
#20 - 2014-05-10 22:04:35 UTC
Garviel Tarrant wrote:
Tadas Estidal wrote:
I'm thinking that tracking/web is more important than damage for hunting frigs,so i'll go with that. Combined with warriors i'm fairly certain i can take down most frigs pretty fast.


If a frig gets a scram on you and it has a tank you are dead.

Your guns wont track and it will kill your drones. Sorry. The way to kill frigates in this ship is to not let them catch you.


Or just web, neut and kill them back.....
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