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Evi Polevhia
Phoenix Naval Operations
Phoenix Naval Systems
#1 - 2014-05-09 13:21:07 UTC
Listed as a heavy drone. And as far as we know, heavy drones are not piloted.

Has the Dragonfly model (Gurista paint job), and Dragonfly's are piloted.

So which is it? Are these piloted or not piloted? They are both listed as 34m in size so the Gecko is as large as a piloted fighter craft. But it doesn't take nearly the bandwidth of a fighter craft.

Also, who did we get them from? CONCORD? Gurista? If I'm being bribed I'd like to know by who and for what purpose. Big smile
Bagrat Skalski
Koinuun Kotei
#2 - 2014-05-09 16:44:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Bagrat Skalski
My fighter squad changed sides when their other fellow chaps "accidentally" destroyed station full of women and children in low sec. They have "taken care" of those psychos first. Spacecrafts are piloted like a fighters, it's really a modified fighter stripped of some tech.

Custom ship skins, character creator style "repaint". Bring it!
Ravasta Helugo
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#3 - 2014-05-10 00:44:33 UTC
I'm choosing to believe that it is a stripped down fighter. The cockpit is right there, after all.
Xindi Kraid
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#4 - 2014-05-10 08:15:17 UTC
what I am most confused by is how the Gecko is a variant of a Dragonfly yet can fit inside the drone bay of a battleship.
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#5 - 2014-05-10 09:33:30 UTC
Xindi Kraid wrote:
what I am most confused by is how the Gecko is a variant of a Dragonfly yet can fit inside the drone bay of a battleship.

magic

Murderers of Negotiable Motivations

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Evi Polevhia
Phoenix Naval Operations
Phoenix Naval Systems
#6 - 2014-05-10 14:19:29 UTC
All I can really think of, without having heard from a Dev in any way bout this, is the following.

It could be that the Gurista have developed tech to allow the Dragonfly to be controlled remotely and not piloted. They tweaked the weapons pretty heavily and some other characteristics of the craft. The reason it doesn't take up as much space in the drone bay is I assume one of the reasons for such a massive drone bay is there's also living quarters added to your ship for those fighter pilots that's taken into account? Or some sort of "And x space is set aside to accommodate the fleshy bits of your fighters". Without that, the Gecko is much more trimmed down as far as space required.
Xindi Kraid
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#7 - 2014-05-10 18:56:10 UTC
The cockpit takes up a only a small portion of the fighter though. The rest is engines wings and weapons.
Deitra Vess
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#8 - 2014-05-10 19:08:51 UTC
The pilot still needs a place to sleep and eat right?
Bagrat Skalski
Koinuun Kotei
#9 - 2014-05-10 19:47:25 UTC
Deitra Vess wrote:
The pilot still needs a place to sleep and eat right?


There is connection of drone bay with room for technicians that do emergency maintenance of drones, it is so big that you can place those pilots there and they do not sleep standing.

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Droidyk
Maniacal Miners INC
The Legends In The Game
#10 - 2014-05-10 21:12:19 UTC  |  Edited by: Droidyk
there might be a drone inside or other kinds of AI that controls it, similar that controls other drones I reckon. Plus there are highly advanced drones (droids) which might have any form, from humanoid to nanites. ...
Kyoko Sakoda
Achura-Waschi Exchange
Monyusaiya Industry Trade Group
#11 - 2014-05-10 21:42:46 UTC
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
Xindi Kraid wrote:
what I am most confused by is how the Gecko is a variant of a Dragonfly yet can fit inside the drone bay of a battleship.

magic


Magnets.
Xindi Kraid
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#12 - 2014-05-10 22:05:42 UTC
Kyoko Sakoda wrote:
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
Xindi Kraid wrote:
what I am most confused by is how the Gecko is a variant of a Dragonfly yet can fit inside the drone bay of a battleship.

magic


Magnets.

How do they work?
Leorajev Aubaris
Blue Goat Ltd.
#13 - 2014-05-11 09:03:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Leorajev Aubaris
I have an entirely different question.
For what kind of ship is this drone designed?
There is no battleship that could deploy more than 2 of this drone plus 1 additional heavy.
What's the win for 2 Geckos with 1 additional say 1 Ogre (II) over a full flight (5) of heavies?
Bagrat Skalski
Koinuun Kotei
#14 - 2014-05-11 10:19:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Bagrat Skalski
When you look up the dimensions of the assembled heavy drones, you can see that they completely don't make 25 m, they are bigger than that, what we have is the big drone bay and launch mechanisms for certain classes of drones, those mechanisms are for heavy, medium and small drones. 25m, 10m, and 5m. This modified fighters have been prepared to be launched like drones with mechanisms that are 50 m consisting of two modified 25 m launchers, guristas have been experimenting a lot with super heavy drones and battleships, especially their rattlesnakes, for long time they tried to pack a fighter in battleship class wessel. This is the effect.

"Heavy drone" in description is only a classification that have been considered best for those fighters. You know, official registrations.

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Lloyd Roses
Artificial Memories
#15 - 2014-05-11 11:47:17 UTC
Does it make a difference? If your drone is destroyed, it boils down to wether or not you have to clone a new pilot...

They kind of do grow on trees in the end.
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#16 - 2014-05-11 12:07:24 UTC
Xindi Kraid wrote:
Kyoko Sakoda wrote:
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
Xindi Kraid wrote:
what I am most confused by is how the Gecko is a variant of a Dragonfly yet can fit inside the drone bay of a battleship.

magic


Magnets.

How do they work?

with difficulty

Murderers of Negotiable Motivations

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Gabriel Dube
Outer Planets Alliance
#17 - 2014-05-14 09:20:24 UTC
Bagrat Skalski wrote:
Deitra Vess wrote:
The pilot still needs a place to sleep and eat right?


There is connection of drone bay with room for technicians that do emergency maintenance of drones, it is so big that you can place those pilots there and they do not sleep standing.


Regardless of wether or not crew space would still be present on a capsuleer ship as opposed to a standard crewed one, there should still be no need to a crew on a capsuleer ship...
Evi Polevhia
Phoenix Naval Operations
Phoenix Naval Systems
#18 - 2014-05-14 12:39:32 UTC
Gabriel Dube wrote:
...there should still be no need to a crew on a capsuleer ship...


There is reduced need for crew. But there is still crew needed. For things like general maintenance. The Capsuleer essentially replaces all the command staff on a ship. But you can't really swab down the decks and give the place a new coat of paint from inside the pod.

https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/New_Eden_crew_guidelines