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ORE support ship for Prospect mining gangs
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Vivianne Athonille
WHolely Unacceptable
#1 - 2014-05-10 02:03:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Vivianne Athonille
As the Prospect is based on the Venture, let this be based on the Noctis.


  • Requires a new skill beyond ORE Industrial V?
  • EDIT -- Call the skill ORE Expedition Cruiser with the following requirements (also makes this a divergent option from the Orca):
    • Quote:

    • Expedition Frigate III (need to understand the Prospect)
    • ORE Industrial III
    • Mining Director I (the point is to bring a link)

  • 5 utility High, 4 Mid, 3 Low, 3 Rigs
  • Can fit one warfare link (more via Command Processors)
  • 30% bonus to Tractor Beam and Survey Scanner range per skill level
  • Drone support sufficient enough to handle low sec belt rats with some skills (responsible for covering the Prospects, which have no drones)
  • 200 m3 cargo, possibly an additional ore hold that grows with skill level
  • Role bonus of -100% Cloaking Device CPU use and can fit Covert Ops Cloaking Devices
Rendiff
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2014-05-10 02:16:30 UTC
Neato
Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
#3 - 2014-05-10 04:09:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Abrazzar
You know what I'd do? I'd add a cruiser sized mining/support ship with shield transfer and drone bonuses, add a T2 version of that with (most) of the stats of the Noctis and turn every noctis in the game into this, then add BPOs for the Primae as a T1 mining foreman vessel with turrets for (gas)mining and (sentry) drones for defence and use your design as the new Noctis.

Edit: Or boost the Primae to fill the role of PI control ship properly instead of (or in addition to even) being a foreman vessel.

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Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#4 - 2014-05-10 04:13:15 UTC
Beofryn Sedorak
#5 - 2014-05-10 05:00:16 UTC
I posted a similar concept a while back in another thread : https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4169625#post4169625


Beofryn Sedorak wrote:
EVE is a very complex beast with a solution for MOST situations, Some more practical and efficient than others.

With that being said, Here's some of my thoughts on this particular idea.

Is it "needed?" no.
Would it be fun/helpfu? YES!
Are there other ways to do what this ship would do? yes.
Could this ship be tailored to do it better? YES!

What I would envision is a T2 Noctis variant with an emphasis on high risk mining support.

Some boosting bonus (1.5~2% per level instead of on par with Orca to keep the Orca desirable?)
Fleet Ore Hold (Same functionality as a fleet hangar but can only hold ore/gas/ice)
Since mobile Depots are now something everyone has, adding fitting service to the ship may seem more reasonable?
Maybe a bonus to repair and mining drones?
Perhaps a new mining foreman link that boosts mining drone yield?

Just some thoughts, I'm by no means an expert on any of this stuff so take it for what you will :)
Vivianne Athonille
WHolely Unacceptable
#6 - 2014-05-10 13:36:50 UTC
Glad to see this idea has come up before, actually. I was looking into ships to support the new Prospect, with questions similar to those in the thread you linked. I never realized there were combat ships which could operate a single warfare link, and then you have the strategic cruiser which can fit Covert Ops Cloak too.

Seems that ORE has quite the gap on the low-end for support with nothing in the single-link cruiser line. Such a ship could be the perfect complement to the Prospect.
epicurus ataraxia
Illusion of Solitude.
Illusion of Solitude
#7 - 2014-05-10 13:41:21 UTC  |  Edited by: epicurus ataraxia
Vivianne Athonille wrote:
As the Prospect is based on the Venture, let this be based on the Noctis.


  • Requires a new skill beyond ORE Industrial V
  • 5 utility High, 4 Mid, 3 Low, 3 Rigs
  • Can fit one warfare link (more via Command Processors)
  • 30% bonus to Tractor Beam and Survey Scanner range per skill level
  • Drone support sufficient enough to handle low sec belt rats with some skills (responsible for covering the Prospects, which have no drones)
  • 200 m3 cargo, possibly an additional ore hold that grows with skill level
  • Role bonus of -100% Cloaking Device CPU use and can fit Covert Ops Cloaking Devices




Sounds like the Ore Version of the Nestor. Better use for it.
Better still same as current nestor, paint it black, and add covert ops cloak, warfare links and tractor/survey bonus. Just do not call it a battleship, that brings out the crazies.

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Vivianne Athonille
WHolely Unacceptable
#8 - 2014-05-10 15:29:47 UTC
Thought more about the skill requirements and the purpose of the ship. Also considered that maybe this should be a similar train to the Orca that focuses on the Expedition term introduced with the Prospect. Updated OP with thoughts.