EVE General Discussion

I have caught a few barges on gates while camping. I was a pirate as you know. But I do still enjoy mining. Take a closer look at the KMs and you will see 10+ people on them.


So does anyone here have a hulk fit they are comfortable with in empire?

Neato!


Its another highsec miner entitlement thread!

Have ALL the cake and eat it too!

Fit a tank and you won't have an issue; make a sacrifice like every other ship in the game has to.

Fit that f***er for yield and get out there! Hulk mining is the only way I've had fun mining. Destroying rocks and dodging every ganker that knows I've undocked!

It's a challenge, what's not to like?

Also, when you're in the belts with "lesser" mining vessels always mine the rocks they're mining. Force those miners off to another belt. You're in a Hulk ffs, have some pride! Look at it this way, when you're mining in a Hulk you are literally taking a bullet for every nerd mining in that system. Make those nerds bow down, kiss the ring, and get the hell out of your @#$%^& BELT!

When you finally dock up after all that fun send me 10 million isk. Please put "permit" as the reason.

TIA

You miners have a ship called THE HULK and you're too afraid to use it?

I guess the only thing Hulk-like about most miners is the pure, unadulterated green rage they go into when they're lazy/stupid/AFK enough to get ganked.

potentially ....


- losec is mainly empty
- a lot of the people in losec are in fw running plexes and looking for war targets
- losec PvP roamers are often lookng for that awesome kill they can talk about where they "got down to structure before finally taking out that tengu" etc etc . whereas you get a lot more killmail whores looking for easy kills in highsec

HOWEVER if you are the only ship on scan people on a roam are not always going to ignore you

Or once those new hull rigs appear you could park that Orca next to your hulk and perma rep it with shield / armour boosts or you could have a 3rd alt in command ship for armour / shield boosting but what ever you do solo mining is a risky as it's is boring hence why a fleet of catalysts are periodically coming to say hello.

I want a Catalyst that can push out 8790 DPS, DPS is damage per second so you might want change that to total damage dealt in the time available before Concord drop the doughnuts and answer the blap-phone.

Thank you everyone for thoughtful imput. I have gained a lot from reading all of this.


Thus far I like the stowing away of hulks within an orca.


Also to the poster above, I do like the fact that you did the math on catalysts, etc. That was good work and it makes sense.


For those people attacking me, I am not here to rant/complain, but to simply bring an issue I struggle with myself, and try to get some answers. In fact, many of these things in this thread are thought provoking and valuable, well thought out information, and I thank you.


So having said that, here is something I was thinking of.


Generally a well thought out and planned gank goes as follows. A cloaked alt sneaks up on you, and allows for a warp in. Catalyst 1, or even 2, warp in.

What I have read so far is to (and I don't ever afk mine. I am always watching) store the ore/jettison it, and get into another ship within the orca.


Someone previously said neut a catalyst, which is actually a good idea, except the lock time on the orca is of course, terrible.


My next idea was as previously mentioned, 2 reps on the orca for the hulks (I run 2 usually). Someone did mention to me that the orca could get bumped, which is a possibility. But in that event, I would probably just move the fleet. I do bumping myself sometimes in a stabber (thus my bounty of 100m) and so have an idea about how that goes.

Myxx mentioned 20k EHP on a hulk, which is decent, but I am curious of that fit. I assume that is a buffer tank? Also, are they using MLU IIs?


Also Pix, you mentioned that you have to be AFK to get ganked. My problem as stated is not with the fact that I am afk mining. I have a habit of watching the whole op, simply from living in 0.0 and watching local. But the problem with the Hulk is not that we are afraid to use it, but afraid to lose it because of it's paper thin tank, in relation to say a mackinaw. I wouldn't use the mack to afk mine, but to mine safely. Whereas most would use it to do both. Which is fair.


I was also thinking about maybe even a jammer (I havent tried fitting it yet)... Not sure what to think so far.

Please keep all the info coming. Really hoping maybe CCP takes a look at the hulk and changes it a bit. I agree with it being a fleet ship, but disagree that it cannot be flown solo at all, unless protected. I realize that is contradictory, but that's what this thread is about, in a skewed way.

I do actually have an orca to support me. I pull in ~6,300-6,4000m3 a cycle, so that isn't a problem. Exploding is the problemo