Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Problem:

Imho big fleet fights (100+), apart from the immesity factor , are much more boring then small ones. The problem lies imho in fact that the most effective strategy by far is following the orders of one FC, and firing at one primary. And only firing at primary and in worse scenario , being alphad before you can do anything, can get old fast. Also you dont feel you contribute much , you feel more like a robot repeating over and over same thing.


Vision
Now i dont see an easy way out of this , but in my dreams, ideally, the fleet should fucntion true to its form:

With FC at top giving general orders , but squads fighitng in big part independantly , under squad commanders. What it would achieve is much more invovlement from all players, building up small tight group of poeple in squadrons, feeling they contribute much more. Essentialy I woudl like it to be like 20 x 10 man small gang fights.

Possible solution (simplified to get the idea across)

Now what you need to do to make it happen is make fightign in squadronst considerably more effective then alphaing from 400 ships, which isnt easy.

The only solution i see is nerfing the dmg coming from to many ships on a single target, so you dont get much more dmg if more then , say, 10-20 ships fire on one target. That woudl force the blobs to split into squads and each attack one target, forcing each squad to have its own tacklers etc.

Just an idea :)

:) To me tough that seems like a bad workaround not a solution. I would prefer making somethign awesome, if it got potential , then avoiding it.

A reasonable argument, my counter is i havent found one friend who would really enjoy big fleet fights more then small skirmishes.

Take note what what im proposing is not same as small gang combat, its something new, kind of a offspring of big fleet fight and small small gang fights.

Agreed that could also be a solution . The problem is i think its pretty computing hvy. Tough no idea how hvy on computing would be my solution compared to this,

Plz reread my posts: i dont want to ruin them , i want to improve them.

but you'd HAVE to add a stacking penalty to damage and then to remote reps otherwise no one would ever die and that's silly

Fights that go on for days or weeks, each side pounding on each other until one relents, makes a mistake or runs out of some crucial resource?

I can dig that.... Sounds like fun....

Sounds like it'd be fun to watch from a cloaky ship somewhere on the far edge of the grid... Yeah... Keep it up guys, you're doing good....


Oooo, that was pretty....

sooo...a fleet has several light drones target their own say caps or supers and they never die or die that much slower if logi'd up (when not in siege/triage ofc)?

They'd be targetting them, ergo friendly fire triggers the damage nerf. Lights obviously chosen since the smallest damage taken to make this work and 10's of people can realistically send out just 1 light drone to "attack" the caps/supers.


Like mentioned you may want to find a new home. You see...its a viscious cycle. Super/Caps need support. So the BS' come. They need their support for smaller stuff. So the BC's come, BC's are a bit slower so out come the cruisers. And for the smaller stuff still left, wth, bring the frigates.




If it must be 0.0 consider the skirmish crews. You won't own space...but you won't be running in 800 man fleets either. Been ouf ot touch tbh of late with fleet trends. I don't think crews like RK roll blob style with caps to blot out the sun, someone please correct if wrong.

Nice interesting. Was it discussed by devs or only by players?

Obviously what i described was to pass through the idea only, so it was tottaly simplistic.

In reality it woudl ahve to be a prolly a pretty complex mathematic model , with prolly a limit dmg amount per ship class (or maybe a limit above which stacking penalties owuld start), with logistics prolly calcualted before (So in a unit of time total_dmg_for limit= dmg - reped_logisitcs_amount ). (So you could have ifninte dmg to counter infinte logistics and 100 inties attacking a dread would still work....) or yeah maybe stacking penalties for logisitcs or maybe somethign even more complex.

Look it was just an idea., im not to mad about the solution, it woudl ahve to be tested , modeled, modified. I would as well welcoem antyhing to realize the vision desribed in openiong thread.