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Help me bring back the old strip miner animation! Support me! :))

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Ilovetomine
Doomheim
#1 - 2014-05-06 13:27:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Ilovetomine
As the title suggests, lets get a thread going in support of the old strip miner animation. That rugged, deep feel and sound of digging up those asteroids.

CCP Looks at the forums, so lets get this going!

I loved having fleet ops, and hearing that deep laser sound. It sounded powerful, like a strip miner should. Fleet ops looked like a full-blown stripper operation, if you know what I mean.

I think the current animation is good for miners, but not strip miners.

Help me bring back the old strip miner animation.


Even if you arent a miner, support me in this cause.



Here is a video of the glory of the strip miners!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hl8RZNLk60U
Velicitia
XS Tech
#2 - 2014-05-06 13:31:12 UTC
Oblig "Eve has sound?"

TBH, the new animations are fine ... the sounds are too anemic though.

One of the bitter points of a good bittervet is the realisation that all those SP don't really do much, and that the newbie is having much more fun with what little he has. - Tippia

Commander IceQ
Ascendance
Goonswarm Federation
#3 - 2014-05-06 13:41:09 UTC
I kind of like the current animation... Makes it look more like the lasers are doing stuff... though they could make it brighter, the old beams really stood out on screenshots. :)

If they do bring back an animation, I would prefer they bring back the old torpedo animation. Always made it feel like I was doing epic damage (even though I was only hitting a frig for 10 >_< ).

I'll be more enthusiastic about encouraging thinking outside the box when there's evidence of any thinking going on inside it.

Ilovetomine
Doomheim
#4 - 2014-05-06 13:47:54 UTC
Commander IceQ wrote:
I kind of like the current animation... Makes it look more like the lasers are doing stuff... though they could make it brighter, the old beams really stood out on screenshots. :)

If they do bring back an animation, I would prefer they bring back the old torpedo animation. Always made it feel like I was doing epic damage (even though I was only hitting a frig for 10 >_< ).




I do agree with you on that. The old animation did look awesome in fleets for screenshots :)!
Yazzinra
Scorpion Ventures
#5 - 2014-05-06 13:50:24 UTC
+1, also, bring back the purple ice lasers.
fudface
ACME-INC
#6 - 2014-05-06 14:23:47 UTC
not going to happen doodles, that was old and replaced. pointless thread soon to be locked for being a waste soz :(

my 2 isk worth

Solecist Project
#7 - 2014-05-06 15:06:47 UTC
I support this.
CCP has ruined quite a few animations and effects over the years.

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia

Mara Pahrdi
The Order of Anoyia
#8 - 2014-05-06 17:27:15 UTC
Supported. +1

Remove standings and insurance.

Cekle Skyscales
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2014-05-06 18:09:28 UTC
+1 for the sound.

Animation looks great though, don't need to change it.
Ilovetomine
Doomheim
#10 - 2014-05-07 00:45:13 UTC
I don't think this thread is a waste. And of it was to be locked due to old content...much of the forums would be locked.


Just coming in to bump this thread and gather some more support!

If you don't remember the old strip miner animation, you really are missing out! ! There was nothing like zooming in up on a fleet of hulk and hearing their strip miners strip away at asteroids. I really do think this animation catered to the entertainment and coolness factor of a strip miner. Does anyone else agree?
Ltsaimon
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#11 - 2014-05-07 02:27:10 UTC
I think we all are looking to remake old mining mechanics to new one. So sounds and animations should go after mining redisighn.
Andronaxus
Greed is Good Inc.
#12 - 2014-05-07 04:30:32 UTC
Don't underestimate the power of good sounding accompanying good graphics.

The old miner pulse-beam had a deep, threatening sound that resonated with a feeling of POWER.

I loved the sound of asteroids crackling, sounding like they were splitting apart.

It made the entire process more interesting.

More meaningful. It felt that you were really breaking the rocks apart.

The pulsing beam hinted that there was a power so potent, that the ship's cutting beams could not sustain the power, and had to pulse on/off. Alternatively, the rock could have been siphoned off on the down cycle of the pulse.

Idea: Use the pulse animation for the barges, the first tier of exhumers, and then for the true exhumers, use the current animation.

At least consider this. It would be very welcome.
Krops Vont
#13 - 2014-05-07 18:27:25 UTC
I'll support you in this petition. I get nostalgic when I stumble on an old video with it. Generally, I wish CCP could add sound packs from old expansions so in the settings, I could change current to Apocrypha and hear good ol blaster sounds.

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Inquisitor Tyr
VEN0M0US.
Militant Consortium
#14 - 2014-05-07 18:41:31 UTC
The new one could use some tweaks.

Basically the strip miner is a combination lazer and tractor beam; there are two components to it if you look closely - The first is the lazer shooting into the rock, and the larger outer envelope which moves the opposite direction to the lazer Is a tractor field; sucking back all those roid bits. The two components were obvious on the old one and more subtle now.

The issue is the current beam looks too sterile. If the idea is you're shooting into a rock with something with a strip miner, there are pieces of burning hot rock flying off the surface the lazer impacts. They should be red, and the blue component downplayed. A white core with a red tractor field, that fades into black as it cools through the flight would be ideal.
Ilovetomine
Doomheim
#15 - 2014-05-07 19:13:55 UTC
Andronaxus wrote:
Don't underestimate the power of good sounding accompanying good graphics.

The old miner pulse-beam had a deep, threatening sound that resonated with a feeling of POWER.

I loved the sound of asteroids crackling, sounding like they were splitting apart.

It made the entire process more interesting.

More meaningful. It felt that you were really breaking the rocks apart.

The pulsing beam hinted that there was a power so potent, that the ship's cutting beams could not sustain the power, and had to pulse on/off. Alternatively, the rock could have been siphoned off on the down cycle of the pulse.

Idea: Use the pulse animation for the barges, the first tier of exhumers, and then for the true exhumers, use the current animation.

At least consider this. It would be very welcome.




I totally 100% agree with all of this. I really, really love the old strip mining sounds. And I actually believe it would make mining a more interesting and meaningful experience.
Ilovetomine
Doomheim
#16 - 2014-05-07 19:17:23 UTC
Krops Vont wrote:
I'll support you in this petition. I get nostalgic when I stumble on an old video with it. Generally, I wish CCP could add sound packs from old expansions so in the settings, I could change current to Apocrypha and hear good ol blaster sounds.



here's the animation

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hl8RZNLk60U


Ahh god the nostalgia!!!!!!
Owen Levanth
Sagittarius Unlimited Exploration
#17 - 2014-05-07 19:50:39 UTC
Holy **** that sound was awful. Now I'm glad CCP changed this. I think my ears started bleeding after the first few seconds...
Cekle Skyscales
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#18 - 2014-05-07 20:34:43 UTC
Ilovetomine wrote:
Krops Vont wrote:
I'll support you in this petition. I get nostalgic when I stumble on an old video with it. Generally, I wish CCP could add sound packs from old expansions so in the settings, I could change current to Apocrypha and hear good ol blaster sounds.



here's the animation

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hl8RZNLk60U


Ahh god the nostalgia!!!!!!


oh god nostalgia
Bagrat Skalski
Koinuun Kotei
#19 - 2014-05-07 21:23:50 UTC
This sound Shocked they bore a hole in your brain with those. I once meet a fellow that mined in hulk with those, what a brainmushing experience. Lol
Ilovetomine
Doomheim
#20 - 2014-05-09 07:31:12 UTC
I honestly believe they are great. Even if we can't have the sound or animation, something other than the silent hiss of our current strip miners would certainly be better. It is very unimpressive