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Learning to FC Vanguards (Incursions)
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Tabs27
Black Layer Syndicate
Pan-Intergalatic Business Community
#1 - 2014-05-06 09:51:02 UTC
Hey everyone, I am wanting to learn how to FC vanguards, any advice that any of you would recommend? I have watched some youtube videos and read some guides, but I guess it's all trial and error at the end of the day?

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Seraphiel Angelica
Advanced Engineering and Research Division
#2 - 2014-05-06 10:25:12 UTC
best way to learn..

Join VG fleets and pay attention to what the FC say and do. Ask question, absorb knowledge.
Goldiiee
Bureau of Astronomical Anomalies
#3 - 2014-05-06 12:08:50 UTC
You can probably find some information here, https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=206859&find=unread.

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ashley Eoner
#4 - 2014-05-06 22:41:20 UTC
Goldiiee
Bureau of Astronomical Anomalies
#5 - 2014-05-06 23:50:26 UTC
And here is something I wrote up awhile ago, its still relevant for the most part. Link

Things that keep me up at night;  Why do we use a voice communication device to send telegraphs? Moore's Law should state, Once you have paid off the last PC upgrade you will need another.
xPredat0rz
Project.Nova
The Initiative.
#6 - 2014-05-07 05:08:11 UTC
VGs are extremely easy. NCOs are your best friend. Mining colonies arent too bad either. Stay away from OTAs until you know better.
PopplerRo
#7 - 2014-05-07 06:01:51 UTC
tbh just go balls deep, join up with an established group and just get a feel for the sites and what would work best for yourself then
Jill Antaris
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#8 - 2014-05-07 09:37:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Jill Antaris
Well the basics can be learned by flying a couple of hundred(2-3 days) VG sites and watching your FC closely(plus just ask him about some details). It is no that complex at all, if your goal is just to make sure nobody explodes on grid. Running a scout off grid while FCing on grid, developing your own FCing style, predicting other FCs, analysing other FCs fleets, being a fluid contests FC and knowing the ups and downs about fleet compositions is where it gets a bit more complex and where the huge differences in experience and skill in FCing come in to play.

As a general rule, don't trust in logistic players, don't trust in DPS players, don't assume that people will do the right thing when **** hits the fan instead of panicking and assume people will to the wrong thing instead the right thing more often then not.

Edit: It also helps if you fly with a huge amount of different FCs and pay close attention not only what happens on grid, but how the FC runs it(is it quite on coms, everybody know what to do and orders are simple or is there a lot of noise and less coordination), how he deals with other fleets, does he force a lot of contests or simply avoids them by site timings and what he does to adjust gang composition depending on the contest situation or site types to get the best result out of the people and ships he got in his fleet.