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Level 4 Caldari Navy Raven Mission Fitting?

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Alistair Cononach
The Legion of Spoon
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
#1 - 2014-04-03 18:20:29 UTC
Been away from the game for some time, and used to use a regular Raven only.

Not that I'm back, looking for the current "reasonable-best" Mission fitting for the Caldari Navy Raven.

Limitations: No Officer or otherwise uber-expensive Modules, No T2 Rigs.

Prefer some sembalnce of safety/tank over all-out-max-DPS.

Thanks in advance.
Caleidascope
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#2 - 2014-04-03 18:29:35 UTC
Navy Raven

8x cruise missile

1x LMJD
2x sensor booster with targeting range scripts
1x extra large shield booster
2x shield resist mods
1x shield boost amplifier/shield resist mod/tp/cap booster (pick what you like/need)

4x bcu
1x co-processor
(or 3x bcu, 1x co-processor, 1x dc)

I use light scout drones and salvage drones.
You can use whatever drones you like.

3x rigor rigs
(or 2x rigor, 1x ccc; or 2x rigor, 1x flare)

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Dersen Lowery
The Scope
#3 - 2014-04-03 19:25:22 UTC
If you've been out of the game for a while, check the prices on T2 rigs before ruling them out. You might be surprised.

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Klymer
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#4 - 2014-04-03 20:17:02 UTC
Alistair Cononach wrote:


Prefer some sembalnce of safety/tank over all-out-max-DPS.



Maybe you should look into the Scorpion Navy issue, the shield resist bonus on the hull makes it a much 'safer' choice.
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#5 - 2014-04-05 14:06:21 UTC
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Vinyl 41
AdVictis
#6 - 2014-04-05 15:41:17 UTC
Alistair Cononach wrote:
Been away from the game for some time, and used to use a regular Raven only.

Not that I'm back, looking for the current "reasonable-best" Mission fitting for the Caldari Navy Raven.

Limitations: No Officer or otherwise uber-expensive Modules, No T2 Rigs.

Prefer some sembalnce of safety/tank over all-out-max-DPS.

Thanks in advance.

your looking for the navy scorpion same dps as the raven but with much more tank and fitting options
IIshira
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#7 - 2014-04-05 18:25:11 UTC  |  Edited by: IIshira
Vinyl 41 wrote:
Alistair Cononach wrote:
Been away from the game for some time, and used to use a regular Raven only.

Not that I'm back, looking for the current "reasonable-best" Mission fitting for the Caldari Navy Raven.

Limitations: No Officer or otherwise uber-expensive Modules, No T2 Rigs.

Prefer some sembalnce of safety/tank over all-out-max-DPS.

Thanks in advance.

your looking for the navy scorpion same dps as the raven but with much more tank and fitting options


This^

The Navy Scorpion offers better tank than either Raven and does the same DPS.

The one downside is limited range when using T2 ammo. 111 km with Fury but only 74 with Precision missiles. This compares to 111 km/ 166 km with the Raven
IIshira
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#8 - 2014-04-05 19:34:17 UTC

RNI with 888 DPS and 5 min of cap. The only "expensive" module is the shield booster at about 12 mil in Jita... If you want to use T2 you'll need a +1 CPU implant.

[Raven Navy Issue, Missions]
Capacitor Flux Coil II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II

Kinetic Deflection Field II
Kinetic Deflection Field II
Thermic Dissipation Field II
Dread Guristas Large Shield Booster
Shield Boost Amplifier II
Shield Boost Amplifier II
Cap Recharger II

Cruise Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Cruise Missile

Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst I
Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst I

Hobgoblin II x10
Hammerhead II x5




SNI with 888 DPS, 11 min of cap and no implants needed

[Scorpion Navy Issue, Missions]
Capacitor Flux Coil II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II

Kinetic Deflection Field II
Kinetic Deflection Field II
Thermic Dissipation Field II
Large Shield Booster II
Shield Boost Amplifier II
Shield Boost Amplifier II
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II

Cruise Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Cruise Missile
Small Tractor Beam II

Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst I
Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst I
Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst I
stoicfaux
#9 - 2014-04-05 21:52:48 UTC
Use the MJD to snipe in relative safety. CPU is super tight. If you only have shield rigging at IV, you'll need to downgrade one of the shield hardeners to a meta. You can also free up CPU using a DG or Pith XL C-Type which are relatively cheap.

You can also field three sentries, which if you're sniping at long range, shouldn't have tracking issues.


[Raven Navy Issue, mission sniper]
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Co-Processor II

X-Large Shield Booster II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Explosive Deflection Field II
Medium Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 800
Large Micro Jump Drive
Sensor Booster II
Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron

Cruise Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Fury Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Fury Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Fury Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Fury Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Fury Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Fury Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Fury Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Fury Cruise Missile

Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst I
Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst I
Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst I


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Flharfh Lhar
Sasquatch Control Bureau
#10 - 2014-05-05 17:24:04 UTC
Actually I think the two extra launchers on the CNR just about balances out with the RoF bonus the SNI has, so the DPS will be almost identical, although the CNR will apply its damage better due to the explosion radius bonus, and will better be able to one volley cruisers and BCs due to the bigger damage per volley.

SNI is easier to fit (due to only having 6 launchers instead of 8) has a utility high slot and extra mid slot, and a better tank thanks to the resist bonus (can easily fit an excellent omni tank)
CNR applies damage better to smaller targets and one volleys better, has a slightly better capacitor, and is about 70 m/s faster with afterburner running.

All in all, they are both very similar and good ships, and are about identical cost wise. The SNI is the safer choice, while the CNR will go through missions faster. If you go the SNI route, consider using two TPs instead of rigor rigs, and using cap rigs instead.
Jazmyn Stone
Perkone
Caldari State
#11 - 2014-05-05 20:12:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Jazmyn Stone
One thing to remember is the volley damage.

My CNR puts out 964dps with 8080 volley and targets at 93km.
My Navy Scorp puts out 964dps with 6060 volley, and targets at 112km.
My Raven puts out 964dps with 6060 volley, and targets at 93km.



With all 3 BSs you can have both gank and tank. You don't have to sacrifice one for another. But as mentioned before, the Navy Scorp does give 4% shield resists per level, and that helps with it's tank over the others.

Hope that helps a bit.

-Jaz

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Pix Severus
Empty You
#12 - 2014-05-06 03:32:04 UTC
My RNI fitting:

8x Cruise Missile Launcher II
Mjolnir Fury Cruise Missile

Pithum B-Type Medium Shield Booster
Shield Boost Amplifier II
3x Mission Specific TII Shield Hardeners
2x Republic Fleet Target Painter

3x Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Ballistic Control System II
Drone Damage Amplifier II

2x Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst
Large Warhead Flare Catalyst

I swap out one target painter for a TII afterburner for missions that require a lot of travelling.

Missile DPS: 1026.3
Drone DPS: 183.6
Overall DPS: 1209.9

All missile support skills at 5.
Cruise Missile Specialization at 4.
5% missile hardwires.

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6ie
The Kiwis
#13 - 2014-05-11 01:14:27 UTC
Pix Severus wrote:
My RNI fitting:

8x Cruise Missile Launcher II
Mjolnir Fury Cruise Missile

Pithum B-Type Medium Shield Booster
Shield Boost Amplifier II
3x Mission Specific TII Shield Hardeners
2x Republic Fleet Target Painter

3x Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Ballistic Control System II
Drone Damage Amplifier II

2x Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst
Large Warhead Flare Catalyst

I swap out one target painter for a TII afterburner for missions that require a lot of travelling.

Missile DPS: 1026.3
Drone DPS: 183.6
Overall DPS: 1209.9

All missile support skills at 5.
Cruise Missile Specialization at 4.
5% missile hardwires.


^^ the 'approved' fit. However...

BCSII vs DCUII
~58 more dps vs almost 50% more EHP

I'm not as hardcore as you. I prefer the extra 24k EHP.
Jeanne-Luise Argenau
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#14 - 2014-05-11 03:11:20 UTC
ultra tight fitting in more ways than one but should work wonders when u watch your triggers and know how to pilot it

[Raven Navy Issue, mission_cheap]

8x Cruise Missile Launcher II (Inferno Fury Cruise Missile)

Large Micro Jump Drive
X-Large Clarity Ward Booster I
Domination EM Ward Amplifier
Domination Thermic Dissipation Amplifier
2x Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron
Heavy Capacitor Booster II (Cap Booster 800)

Type-D Attenuation Signal Augmentation
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
3x Ballistic Control System II

2x Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst II
Large Warhead Flare Catalyst II

5x Hammerhead II
1x Hammerhead II
5x Hobgoblin II
3x Hobgoblin II
Damon Messer
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#15 - 2014-05-11 05:09:55 UTC
@OP how are your drone skills? have you considered a rattlesnake?
Linkxsc162534
Silent Scourge
#16 - 2014-05-12 04:38:00 UTC
Jazmyn Stone wrote:
One thing to remember is the volley damage.

My CNR puts out 964dps with 8080 volley and targets at 93km. (great application, can blap frigates-cruisers all day long)
My Navy Scorp puts out 964dps with 6060 volley, and targets at 112km. (great tank, and much easier cap stability)
My Raven puts out 964dps with 6060 volley, and targets at 93km. (a fraction the cost of the others, but it gets the job DONE)



With all 3 BSs you can have both gank and tank. You don't have to sacrifice one for another. But as mentioned before, the Navy Scorp does give 4% shield resists per level, and that helps with it's tank over the others.

Hope that helps a bit.

-Jaz


Fixed your post.
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