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[Proposal] Get CCP to "roll back" the Fuel Block change
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Hamoi Jane
Ponzi Fiduciary Trust Group
#1 - 2011-12-02 17:36:11 UTC
I have two POS-es in HiSec. Keep the defence modules turned off to save resources. The fuel blocks will triple my LOX burn rate and add 25% to my DeO2 burn rate. Slight decreses in other items to not compensate for this. Also adds extra step of having to manufacture the Fuel Blocks and move them to the POS storage

Thanks for your consideration.
CynoNet Two
GSF Logistics and Posting Reserves
Goonswarm Federation
#2 - 2011-12-02 18:15:49 UTC
Supporting this because it benefits some lone hi-sec dude and his two little towers. **** everyone else who asked for this change!

(not really)
Emperor Salazar
Remote Soviet Industries
Insidious Empire
#3 - 2011-12-02 18:16:58 UTC
Hamoi Jane wrote:
I have two POS-es in HiSec. Keep the defence modules turned off to save resources. The fuel blocks will triple my LOX burn rate and add 25% to my DeO2 burn rate. Slight decreses in other items to not compensate for this. Also adds extra step of having to manufacture the Fuel Blocks and move them to the POS storage

Thanks for your consideration.


Awwwwww your personal High sec POSs will no longer be profitable?

How terrible Roll Working as intended, get friends.

Also, an extra step? Thats absolutely great. Its one more step people can make money off of. Its also a step that enables POS logistics to be much easier.
thetwilitehour
Caldari Provisions
#4 - 2011-12-02 18:23:57 UTC
I'm gonna agree that the needs of your one man corp far outweigh the hassle that is fueling towers for the vast majority of tower fuelers, aka the 0.0 alliances. Risk free play is what CCP is about, so your proposal makes perfect sense. We should enable play styles such as your where you only interact with others via the market, if that counter doesn't tick over on your isk as fast as you want you'd probably unsubscribe.
Vertisce Soritenshi
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2011-12-02 19:48:13 UTC
Admitting to giving the OP the "like"...not because I agree though. I saw how many the OP had and laughed...then I felt bad. Negative Kharma sucks so I "liked".

Now...stop badposting.

Bounties for all! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2279821#post2279821
Velicitia
XS Tech
#6 - 2011-12-02 20:21:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Velicitia
counter proposal --
stop trying to solo in a multiplayer game.

alternatively, biomass yourself.

@ Vertisce -- "zero" is not negative... think you should have left well enough alone Cool

One of the bitter points of a good bittervet is the realisation that all those SP don't really do much, and that the newbie is having much more fun with what little he has. - Tippia
Rico Minali
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2011-12-02 23:51:04 UTC
Hamoi Jane wrote:
I have two POS-es in HiSec. Keep the defence modules turned off to save resources. The fuel blocks will triple my LOX burn rate and add 25% to my DeO2 burn rate. Slight decreses in other items to not compensate for this. Also adds extra step of having to manufacture the Fuel Blocks and move them to the POS storage

Thanks for your consideration.



Go and do hisec incursions for.. wait, didnt I already say this? HIsec is a massive isk faucet, it needs a few extra sinks.

Trust me, I almost know what I'm doing.
Tahna Rouspel
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#8 - 2011-12-03 06:01:23 UTC
I like the new Fuel Block. It will make my life a lot easier when refilling the fuel bay. Also, if the price is good, it means I won't have to constantly check for what is missing in the fuel bay.

If POS fuel becomes a widespread problem, then I'm sure CCP will look into it. Until then, if you're unable to pay the maintenance fee, than find something else. Share a POS with a corp or a friend to cut down on cost. There's always something else, and worse case, you just make less isk.
Asuka Solo
I N E X T R E M I S
Tactical Narcotics Team
#9 - 2011-12-03 09:51:55 UTC  |  Edited by: Asuka Solo
I have multiple towers in hi-sec.

I prefer this new fuel block thing since I use allot less fuel compared to the old system.

You suck at math.

kthanx

Eve is about Capital ships, WiS, Boobs, PI and Isk!
AkJon Ferguson
JC Ferguson and Son Ltd
Ferguson Alliance
#10 - 2011-12-04 22:21:06 UTC
+1 It wasn't a good change, though I'm glad CCP tweaked it to make it less bad.
Breaker77
Reclamation Industries
#11 - 2011-12-05 00:15:53 UTC
Hamoi Jane wrote:
triple my LOX burn rate and add 25% to my DeO2 burn rate.


WTF is LOX and DeO2?

POSes use liquid ozone and heavy water.

Ozone is liquified ozone which is O3 and heavy water is 2H2O

Where the hell do you get LOX and DeO2?? It's no wonder you can't make a profit running a POS, you have no ******* clue what to fuel it with currently.

If you are fueling it with LOX (liquid oxygen!!!) and DeO2 (which doesn't exist), you are an idiot.
Henry Haphorn
Killer Yankee
#12 - 2011-12-05 03:07:59 UTC
The wants of the few outweigh the needs of the many I suppose.Roll

Adapt or Die
Samillian
Angry Mustellid
#13 - 2011-12-05 10:28:48 UTC
The positive side of the introduction of fuel blocks far outweighs the negatives.

Not supported.

NBSI shall be the whole of the Law
Cid SilverWing
Doomheim
#14 - 2011-12-05 14:52:02 UTC
Get friends or uninstall EVE. Simple as. MMO's weren't made for singleplayer.
Asuka Solo
I N E X T R E M I S
Tactical Narcotics Team
#15 - 2011-12-06 05:05:22 UTC
Henry Haphorn wrote:
The wants of the few outweigh the needs of the many I suppose.Roll


Hence why this game is now called sub-caps online Roll

Eve is about Capital ships, WiS, Boobs, PI and Isk!
Raleigh Dawn
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#16 - 2011-12-06 07:25:31 UTC
Breaker77 wrote:
Hamoi Jane wrote:
triple my LOX burn rate and add 25% to my DeO2 burn rate.


WTF is LOX and DeO2?

POSes use liquid ozone and heavy water.

Ozone is liquified ozone which is O3 and heavy water is 2H2O

Where the hell do you get LOX and DeO2?? It's no wonder you can't make a profit running a POS, you have no ******* clue what to fuel it with currently.

If you are fueling it with LOX (liquid oxygen!!!) and DeO2 (which doesn't exist), you are an idiot.

O: Atomic Oxygen
H: Atomic Hydrogen
D: Atomic Deuterium (also, ²H)
O₂: Molecular Oxygen
O₃: Ozone
H₂O: Water
H₂O₂: Hydrogen Peroxide
D₂O: Heavy Water (also, ²H₂O)
Velicitia
XS Tech
#17 - 2011-12-06 12:28:12 UTC
Raleigh Dawn wrote:
Breaker77 wrote:
Hamoi Jane wrote:
triple my LOX burn rate and add 25% to my DeO2 burn rate.


WTF is LOX and DeO2?

POSes use liquid ozone and heavy water.

Ozone is liquified ozone which is O3 and heavy water is 2H2O

Where the hell do you get LOX and DeO2?? It's no wonder you can't make a profit running a POS, you have no ******* clue what to fuel it with currently.

If you are fueling it with LOX (liquid oxygen!!!) and DeO2 (which doesn't exist), you are an idiot.

O: Atomic Oxygen
H: Atomic Hydrogen
D: Atomic Deuterium (also, ²H)
O₂: Molecular Oxygen
O₃: Ozone
H₂O: Water
H₂O₂: Hydrogen Peroxide
D₂O: Heavy Water (also, ²H₂O)


yeah, I think Breaker meant D20 (note, I dunno how to make the sub/superscript charactersOops)... least that was the way I read it at first, rather than "two water molecules".

also, wikipedia indicates that liquid ozone is dark blue rather than white/colourless... CCP MOAR COLOUR!

One of the bitter points of a good bittervet is the realisation that all those SP don't really do much, and that the newbie is having much more fun with what little he has. - Tippia
Wolodymyr
Breaking Ambitions
#18 - 2011-12-06 13:59:01 UTC
Hamoi Jane wrote:
Keep the defence modules turned off to save resources..

Let me guess, as soon as you get wardecked you have 24 hours to turn them back on again?

This is why I hate highsec and damn near everyone in it.

I honestly think PoCo based sov is a good idea https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1417544
Breaker77
Reclamation Industries
#19 - 2011-12-06 23:10:31 UTC
Velicitia wrote:

yeah, I think Breaker meant D20 (note, I dunno how to make the sub/superscript charactersOops)... least that was the way I read it at first, rather than "two water molecules".


Pretty much. If you noticed there are no super/sub scripts used. I don't know how to make them either Sad

Quote:

also, wikipedia indicates that liquid ozone is dark blue rather than white/colourless... CCP MOAR COLOUR!


hmmm, Thats interesting.
Grozdan Boyadijev
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#20 - 2011-12-07 03:42:35 UTC
Hamoi Jane wrote:
I have two POS-es in HiSec. Keep the defence modules turned off to save resources. The fuel blocks will triple my LOX burn rate and add 25% to my DeO2 burn rate. Slight decreses in other items to not compensate for this. Also adds extra step of having to manufacture the Fuel Blocks and move them to the POS storage

Thanks for your consideration.


But now you don't have to go turn on your defense mods, just leave them running all the time!.

Alternatively, if you're using that little CPU or PG, down-grade to the next smaller size of tower. If you're hardly making a dent in the PG and CPU of a small tower, you need to use your towers for more. Of course, the vast majority of players aren't complaining because their towers are profitable enough that even if they weren't fully utilizing the PG and GPU of the tower, they can afford full usage. Maybe you should look into making your operation more profitable first, instead of whining to CCP about a change that was announced well in advance of the actual implementation.
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