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Tavin Aikisen
Phoenix Naval Operations
Phoenix Naval Systems
#1 - 2014-05-04 06:41:45 UTC
I've recently started to make the switch myself to a Logitech G710+ keyboard (MX Browns) from and old Logitech G510 membrane keyboard.

I'm curious as to who else is using them as I feel like I'm late arriving at this trend and in some ways, less enthusiastic about it than most mechanical keyboard users.

So my questions are:

-Have you or do you use a mechanical keyboard? What type?
-Do you type without bottoming out the keystrokes? Please be honest with your answer. I'm only curious.

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jason hill
Red vs Blue Flight Academy
#2 - 2014-05-04 07:49:48 UTC
£150 for a keyboard Shocked

waaaay outta my league !
Tavin Aikisen
Phoenix Naval Operations
Phoenix Naval Systems
#3 - 2014-05-04 08:09:03 UTC
jason hill wrote:
£150 for a keyboard Shocked

waaaay outta my league !


If finance wasn't a factor, would the option of a mechanical keyboard interest you?

I'm more interested in people's thoughts on them, not necessarily if they do own one.

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jason hill
Red vs Blue Flight Academy
#4 - 2014-05-04 08:14:04 UTC  |  Edited by: jason hill
don't get me wrong I didn't say it wasn't nice ...just a tad on the expensive side I`m sure for what it is you get your monies worth ... it just seems to me a lot money to spend on a keyboard

just saying



mind you having said that ive told the mrs I want an occulis for xmas
Aspalis
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2014-05-04 08:35:56 UTC
Using a Ducky Shine3 with mx brown switches.
I actually don't pay attention to it so maybe.

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Rain6637
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#6 - 2014-05-04 09:35:19 UTC
i would like a mechanical but i haven't found one w/ enough hotkeys

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Black Panpher
CastleKickers
Rote Kapelle
#7 - 2014-05-04 11:28:29 UTC
I use mx blues, I don't bottom out when I type but it happens all the time gaming.

IMHO the worst thing about mech keyboards is they are good for different things, blues/browns are awesome for typing and macro games like Starcraft, but reds/black are far superior for fps style or games with much double pressing of keys.

Also blue keys are LOUD make sure everyone you live/work with are ok with the noise or they will prob end up strangling you! CLICK CLICK CLICK!
Webvan
All Kill No Skill
#8 - 2014-05-04 11:39:31 UTC
No, it's old annoying tech. I've had them years ago, much prefer modern keys based on membrane layers. Don't spill anything on it, and if you do, don't turn it upside down, ever (that model). You put it under a faucet, let water run through (has a drain hole), then let it dry for however many days it takes.

I just use cheap ASUS keyboards now, expensive keyboards don't help me type any faster than I do already, and I type fast. When it breaks, I have another to toss onto the system, they're cheap. But still, I usually get a couple years out of them. Easy to clean, just pop the keys and wipe.

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Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
#9 - 2014-05-04 13:56:58 UTC
Poseidon Z Keyboard with blue switches costs about $80, and is quite wonderful. They make one that uses brown switches too.

Nothing fancy, no gaming keys or macros and a 5 year warranty.

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Commissar Kate
Kesukka
#10 - 2014-05-04 14:04:00 UTC
Click Click Click..... no thanks.

What is it with the resurgence of mechanical anyway? Is it supposed to be faster, more durable, or is it just "gamer" marketing hype?

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Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
#11 - 2014-05-04 14:27:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Doc Fury
Commissar Kate wrote:
Click Click Click..... no thanks.

What is it with the resurgence of mechanical anyway? Is it supposed to be faster, more durable, or is it just "gamer" marketing hype?


If you type a lot, you will tend to make less typos as they are more accurate and you can feel when the key has been triggered. They last a lot longer and have longer warranties, but a membrane keyboard is more likely to survive a large spill from your favorite beverage. IMHO a lot of the "gaming" features other than macro and shortcut keys are hokum, but there some are valid arguments about "ghosting" which many of these keyboards claim to address:

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Graygor
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2014-05-04 14:35:28 UTC
Now this has me interested. I'm currently using my G510 but how are you finding the G710?

Ive been holding off getting one as i really like the RSS reader in my G510, its nice seeing breaking news pop up or being able to see when CCP post something new.

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Slade Trillgon
Brutor Force Federated
#13 - 2014-05-04 14:39:35 UTC
Webvan wrote:
No, it's old annoying tech. I've had them years ago, much prefer modern keys based on membrane layers. Don't spill anything on it, and if you do, don't turn it upside down, ever (that model). You put it under a faucet, let water run through (has a drain hole), then let it dry for however many days it takes.

I just use cheap ASUS keyboards now, expensive keyboards don't help me type any faster than I do already, and I type fast. When it breaks, I have another to toss onto the system, they're cheap. But still, I usually get a couple years out of them. Easy to clean, just pop the keys and wipe.



Would you reccommend setting the keyboard on a layer of rice to expedite the drying process? Tossing submerged phones in a bag of rice really speeds up the drying process, I was jsut wondering if the same could be done here if necessary.

P.S. I have a regular old keyboard Bear
Tavin Aikisen
Phoenix Naval Operations
Phoenix Naval Systems
#14 - 2014-05-04 23:55:55 UTC
Commissar Kate wrote:
Click Click Click..... no thanks.

What is it with the resurgence of mechanical anyway? Is it supposed to be faster, more durable, or is it just "gamer" marketing hype?


This is the main reason I was avoiding it. The same reason I avoid all these gaming headsets that seem to have overtaken a good quality set of speakers and a dedicated sound card.

For me, at the moment, it's certainly not faster. Typing without bottoming out is extremely difficult. And if you do bottom out, it defeats the purpose of using one as the smaller actuation points is supposed to be a selling point. The speed and gentle keystrokes will come with practice (for typing anyway).

Graygor wrote:
Now this has me interested. I'm currently using my G510 but how are you finding the G710?

Ive been holding off getting one as i really like the RSS reader in my G510, its nice seeing breaking news pop up or being able to see when CCP post something new.


I had the 510 for so long because I liked the small screen and the additional media keys. A lot of mechanical keyboards don't come with any multimedia keys. I miss how any keyboard would have keys for launching programs and media.

Black Panpher wrote:

IMHO the worst thing about mech keyboards is they are good for different things...


The only benefit I find with gaming is if you inaccurately press a key (for example your finger presses the edge instead of the centre) because the keys are more rigid than membrane keys, it'll probably still actuate. But gaming generally will see you bottoming out.

I think the rest of the benefits are only for typing.

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Webvan
All Kill No Skill
#15 - 2014-05-05 00:53:24 UTC
Slade Trillgon wrote:


Would you reccommend setting the keyboard on a layer of rice to expedite the drying process? Tossing submerged phones in a bag of rice really speeds up the drying process, I was jsut wondering if the same could be done here if necessary.

P.S. I have a regular old keyboard Bear
You can put it in a bag or container with rice. Still, in this case, keep the keyboard level. I'd just see to it that it's in a well circulated area, or even under a fan on low, a slight circulation. A heat lamp could work. Vacuum oven ...more an industry use, but if you have access to one. But for this keyboard (in OP), it's not so much fast drying being important as it is just not tilting it once the liquid gets in. It has some protection, but once tilted it runs over and onto the mechanisms.

For mine, I've had spills. I just unplug it, wiped it off and plug it back in. I never had a spill on a mechanical keyboard, I always kept liquid away from it.
-
click - click - click - there are some that are quiet. My only requirement is good key index markers (on F and J).

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Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#16 - 2014-05-05 02:32:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Andski
Tavin Aikisen wrote:
-Have you or do you use a mechanical keyboard? What type?
-Do you type without bottoming out the keystrokes? Please be honest with your answer. I'm only curious.


Filco Majestouch with Cherry MX Blue switches

I used to bottom out my keys with rubber domes, but I rarely do it now.

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Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#17 - 2014-05-05 02:50:48 UTC  |  Edited by: Andski
Tavin Aikisen wrote:
This is the main reason I was avoiding it. The same reason I avoid all these gaming headsets that seem to have overtaken a good quality set of speakers and a dedicated sound card.

For me, at the moment, it's certainly not faster. Typing without bottoming out is extremely difficult. And if you do bottom out, it defeats the purpose of using one as the smaller actuation points is supposed to be a selling point. The speed and gentle keystrokes will come with practice (for typing anyway).


Mechanical keyboards are not a new "fad." POS systems have included mechanical keyboards since ever due to the fact that POS systems tend to have long service lives and the keyboards are expected to last. Mechanical typewriters had, of course, mechanical keyboards, as did most electronic typewriters. The first PCs all included mechanical keyboards. Rubber dome keyboards were designed to reduce production cost and shipping weight.

Your typing habits will change as you get used to using a mechanical keyboard. I've had mine for 4 years now and it still works like a charm and none of the keys have even faded.

Tavik Aikisen wrote:
I had the 510 for so long because I liked the small screen and the additional media keys. A lot of mechanical keyboards don't come with any multimedia keys. I miss how any keyboard would have keys for launching programs and media.


My headset has a volume control that adjusts the OS volume. You don't really need shortcut buttons on a keyboard these days. Just pin your most frequently used programs to the taskbar.

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Aspalis
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#18 - 2014-05-06 12:51:58 UTC
Got my Ducky Shine3 TKL today! \o/

For you, Kate.

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Rain6637
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#19 - 2014-05-06 12:56:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Rain6637
I prefer shallow keys like the ones you find on laptops, but again not enough hotkeys

and i don't feel like hacking one up

Aspalis wrote:
Got my Ducky Shine3 TKL today! \o/

For you, Kate.

his form is so bad

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