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Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
#21 - 2014-05-02 07:48:05 UTC
Yang Aurilen wrote:
Tau Cabalander wrote:
The only thing that scares me about 0 ISK is not having an awesome story to tell about it.

With a rookie ship, I expect I can be back in the billions in no time. I've learned how to earn ISK. I have many skills. I have high standing with many corps and factions.

Unless he got podded repeatedly in an alpha clone and is a pirate.P

Doesn't matter. I can start a new character and make much faster advancement than I originally did.

I've still got my years of EVE knowledge and experience.
Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor
#22 - 2014-05-02 08:00:26 UTC
Luckily there is the Making ISK guide to give you some suggestions on ways to claw your way back into the 1% club.

The most conservative path back into fat-wallet-land is to run some L1 courier missions -> buy a hauler -> run bigger courier missions. Everything else except station spinning will make more ISK faster:

  • Mine in your rookie ship until you can afford a Venture, then keep mining and upgrading your equipment
  • Mine or run courier missions until you can afford a frigate to do L1 security missions, then do those in a destroyer, then head to L2s with a cruiser, then L3s with a a battlecruiser, then a battleship.
  • Do the Exploration tutorial mission (if you have access to one still), head out into low sec with your exploration ship to make your fortune from treasure hunting
  • Join Pro Synergy, borrow a destroyer or Noctis and make your millions

Day 0 Advice for New Players
Lost Greybeard
Drunken Yordles
#23 - 2014-05-02 11:29:18 UTC
Tau Cabalander wrote:
The only thing that scares me about 0 ISK is not having an awesome story to tell about it.

With a rookie ship, I expect I can be back in the billions in no time. I've learned how to earn ISK. I have many skills. I have high standing with many corps and factions.

Tau has many leather-bound books, and his apartment smells of rich Mahogany.
Velicitia
XS Tech
#24 - 2014-05-02 12:46:25 UTC
Lost Greybeard wrote:
Tau Cabalander wrote:
The only thing that scares me about 0 ISK is not having an awesome story to tell about it.

With a rookie ship, I expect I can be back in the billions in no time. I've learned how to earn ISK. I have many skills. I have high standing with many corps and factions.

Tau has many leather-bound books, and his apartment smells of rich Mahogany.


^ this.

While you were there, did you happen to partake of the well-aged scotch he also keeps on hand?

One of the bitter points of a good bittervet is the realisation that all those SP don't really do much, and that the newbie is having much more fun with what little he has. - Tippia
Jason Station
Critical Mass Inc
#25 - 2014-05-02 13:35:18 UTC
I have been in to the negative isk range (legitimately, got busted with contraband at a gate and the fine was higher than what I had on me. I had to petition a GM because they would not let me go because I had not paid the fine) and pulling back out was a pain only because I could not sell anything (you need isk to pay the fees). I grabbed a rookie ship and ran missions in it (which was also a challenge without the money for collateral for some missions) until I got to above zero. From there is was time to sell the junk I had looted while negative, get better equipment and go right back to it.

Getting to zero is not a huge deal once you know how the game works. Sometimes I even start a trial account just to remember what the new guys have to go through.
Cronos Decendum
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#26 - 2014-05-02 14:04:22 UTC
Amber Patoria wrote:
Iria Ahrens wrote:
I don't think plex would work, since you would need to pay fees to sell the plex.

Good point, totally forgot about that.


Buy plex on alt. Wire money. Works in real world so works in EVE.
Marc Callan
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#27 - 2014-05-02 15:44:30 UTC
The last-ditch solution if you've been taken for absolutely everything: the free noobship, which always assembles complete with civilian weapon with no ammunition requirements and a civ mining laser. (And if you strip off the turrets and repackage it, then re-assemble it, you'll get another civ weapon and civ mining laser.) So long as you can dock at a station (and there should always be a station somewhere where you can dock), you'll never be without the means to fly, shoot, and/or drill.

And even if you've been blasted back into an alpha clone, injected skillbooks never leave your head. You may have to re-train from scratch, but you never have to re-buy a skillbook.

"We are what we pretend to be, so we must be careful about what we pretend to be." - Kurt Vonnegurt
Christy D Floyd
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#28 - 2014-05-02 17:13:45 UTC
When it comes to rsik and reward in a hypothetical scenario like you stated then it doesnt apply. Where is the risk of losing nothing for something. Get creative and hungry. Do whatever you can to make isk even if its immoral. OP what would you do if you were stranded on a desert island???????? would you survive or just lay down and die. For god sakes man take everything give nothing.

Money is better than poverty, if only for financial reasons.
ISD LackOfFaith
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#29 - 2014-05-02 17:50:07 UTC
Plenty of answers for the rest of the stuff, but nobody seems to have touched upon this:

Matthias Navire wrote:
Also, I started in the Gallentean federation, but I find I'm more into the Minmatar ships. Any way I can change the starter I get when I arrive shipless at a station?


No, there is not. As a Gallente character you will always get a Velator as your free noobship. That's okay though, because it's the most powerful noobship Blink. Completely OP. I can't believe CCP Fozzie is ignoring the critical issue that is nerfing the Velator.

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Obunagawe
#30 - 2014-05-02 17:59:31 UTC
If I lost everything it would be a good excuse to quit EVE.
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#31 - 2014-05-02 18:26:58 UTC
0 ISK with just a free Rookie ship available?

I'd first travel round through the various high sec asteroid belts looking for NPC wrecks left by miners and loot them for mods to sell and or equip my ship. Of course my first priority would be to get a Salvager module. After getting a halfway decent fit up I'd then start destroying high sec asteroid NPC's to collect bounty, loot and salvage..

Wouldn't take long to move up into a Frigate and start blitzing small anomalies. That would then quickly finance a Cruiser easily enough.

Altogether it shouldn't take very long at all to get back up.



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Inxentas Ultramar
Ultramar Independent Contracting
#32 - 2014-05-02 18:34:56 UTC
I've once started "from scratch" using a free character slot as an experiment.

I picked up loot from Amake with a noobship. 6 mil straight from the gate.

With the knowledge of playing a while, there is almost no rock bottom in practice apart from negative balance through the fringe cases of contraband or getting busted with RMT.
cpt Varox
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#33 - 2014-05-04 07:26:33 UTC
OP,
I have reached rock bottom three times i think before, the moust memorable was the first time ofc. I had basically poured all my isk into pvp ships back in my infancy in o,o and due to political situations i have ended up grinding all down in gloriuous combat . After i short break i had ressuped with plex and was left with nothing to my name.
Of course the only course of action was stealing (no not form corp and the rest) ninja salvaging ftw ! (i do belive it can be done now still but less efficient ...where there is a will there is a way :P) . Then i decided lowsec fights could give me even more t2 loot and i did that too. In 4 days of more or less consistent pilfering i was back to fighing form .

Remember kinds hard work its not that healthy for your mental sanity :P.
Kasife Vynneve
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#34 - 2014-05-04 13:08:15 UTC
Cara Forelli wrote:


Civilian guns don't need ammo :)


Civilian weapons are fueled by the souls of the dammed (ie civilians)
Gorn Arming
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#35 - 2014-05-05 06:19:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Gorn Arming
I tried this on an alt as a lark. He had < 1 mil SP; I think it was close to 100k but I'm not certain.

I went to lowsec in a Velator and looked for wrecks. After a few minutes I found one with a tag worth a million or so. Chump change, but it was enough to buy an Atron and guns, plus a T1 small armor repairer. I enlisted in faction warfare and orbited a few of those beacon things they have down there. After about an hour I cashed out the LP on one of the LP-only options; I think it was some kind of skillbook. I took those to a trade hub and sold them for ~30 million.

At that point I considered the experiment over. It took a couple hours total; if you were dedicated (or lucky) there's room to shave that down.

In any case, once you have the game knowledge even being completely zeroed is no real obstacle.
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