Player Features and Ideas Discussion

I seriously cant see the Hyp hitting those numbers in in one fit, much less projecting them to lock range with selectable damage*.


*It will "lose" this in the summer.

This is indeed relavent.
For instance i very rarely buy faction/deadspace gear esp for highsec but i will put caldari navy BCU on my new snake to cope with the CPU issues as much as the dps increase. As long as i avoid further bling it shouldn't be overly gank magnet material.
The new drone modules could significantly alter the fits i am going to try.

I'm also curious if we're going to see a low-slot drone navigation module or if this will just be a Faction version of the mid-slot version. What about Deadspace versions? (we already have Officer, rare as they are)

RLML? Where did that come from?

Where did that come from?

Last time I talked about launchers, I was telling how to use cruise launchers on everything down to cruiser and the modules required for it, while saying that anything smaller is Sentry-BLAP fodder.

The reason I'm particular about drone loss is that even though I pay attention to my drones, when one is at 6km and gets frigates web it, recalling it with 70% of it's shields intact... it's not coming back.
And that was just a light drone with only a few frigates on it, while the Gecko will be also targeted by BC and BS rats, if they so decide.

I hope no troll will suggest I fit a remote repair module on my ship.
And the suggestion of not using it until I have a steady way of obtaining more is unnecessary.

I am not sure people struggling to kill elite frigs in PVE can be helped.
Best not to try is what i have learned.

Sounded more like a claim than a suggestion.
Must be my bad.

Drones primary and missiles secondary...
The missiles are not THAT secondary that I'd ruin the ship with a Rapid Light. At the very most Rapid Heavies.

But going further, you have one drone in space.
It does omnidamage, which is nice for PvP, but for PvE some of it will high the highest resists, some the lowest, instead of two heavies hitting the rat's resist hole.
It has 20k EHP (may be off), but most of it in hull, so once you recall (because you will recall once it's primary of a whole pocket), it will be pretty much unusable for that mission.
Letting it out while elite frigs are around is a no-no.
You can carry a maximum of 3 of them, but assuming you carry a flight of sentries and lights as well, you are down to either one spare Gecko "flight" and no extras from the other kinds of drones, or the other way around (with half a sentry extra only).

Once more, drone utility lost, through lost drone bay, but this time I agree with that more than ever (was sceptic 'till now).

And I think I need more data until I agree with that, and it needs to be convincing.


Now for PvP, it sounds rather intriguing, but somehow I can almost imagine Ishtars liking it more (2/2/1 setup).

Hardly, I am afraid you are missing the point.
any ship can be flown
Some require a much more hands on approach, switching weapons for range,launching and monitoring drones, recalling drones, repeatedly, switching ammo, switching painters, switching drones, switching tracking scripts. etc etc.
Some you press F1

The rattlesnake now requires much more management
Management does not equal fun.
Details detailed all through the thread.
So why would one fly the rattlesnake when there are better ships, that require less faffing about with?

no.
As people have said for many many pages.
not fun, A pain in the arse. There is a difference.
I am not trying to be argumentative with you, a lot of people really do not Like the ship as it is, It seems you do, and I can respect your opinion.

Did you not switch drones based on range before?
Didn't need to recall drones before?
Repeatedly?
You complained about the missile velocity bonus lost so I assume you used them, but didn't use target painters before?
Or didn't need to switch them?
Didn't need to switch tracking scripts until now?
Or ammo?
Ect ect ect?

All these you needed to do already when trying to bring the best out of the snake, the changes didn't suddenly introduce all this.

Drone monitoring was "ruined" or introduced as the mission AI was upgraded, and that was ages ago.
Scripts were introduced when the Omni became an active module (and got nerfed), also not a new thing.
Missiles were always like that.
TPs even became more easy to handle lately.

Why did you fly it until now?