Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Notably, as I remain unbanned, it can be easily inferred that either I am an ISD myself, or I have not broken the myriad rules he accused me of breaking.

I merely disagreed with his claims, and refused to be shouted down.

Everyone is calling you on your blatant ignorance and negligence of the facts that all confirm that these are poor changes to the Rattlesnake. Its real DPS will still be less than other pirate faction ships and will have all their weaknesses. No reason to fly a Rattlesnake if with these changes.

Kaarous, you are getting close to the point where even I might report you,

Please drop the goading and baiting, it really is not helping.

So people are getting butt hurt because the rattle snake is:
Keeping the same Large/Sentry Drone DPS while gaining a lot of extra HP for them.
Gaining 50% Kinetic and Thermal Missile Damage which applies to all sizes of missiles.
Keeping it tank.

In exchange it will no longer be able to deal with small ships just like almost every other battleship?

No that is really a very poor summation.
Sorry, but there are so many pages about exactly what people are concerned about.
That is just simplifying to the point where the issues are trivialised.

Dear Lord I AMAZED at how you are skirting by without getting about every other one of your foul-mouthed, venomous and vile responses wiped from existence by an ISD. Even if you have legitimate complaints and ideas, there is no need at all to be as vitriolic and sadistic as you are being; that only serves to discredit any valid opinions you might have. Loosen up a little and ease off; nobody deserves to be talked down and disrespected the way you're doing, and you're not doing yourself any favors with it, especially if you want to be heard.

On the complaint list, yes; those are all valid concerns that need to be addressed. The superdrone concept works fine for the worm as it follows with similar weapon grouping bonuses for the frigates, but should not, NOT have been scaled up to the gila or rattlesnake. The issue you and others that you're arguing with is about specifics; certainly we can all find things we dislike, even to the point of 'screaming and jumping up and down' about it as you put it, but the forest tends to get lost in the trees with this approach.

The over-arching issue is that these changes do not lend well at all in any way whatsoever to the Rattlesnake's PVE abilities. As was stated several times, spider drones and other web/scram frig npcs, especially the elites, would be a serious threat to the rattler in a pve setting. God forbid they use it in a wh against sleepers.

The issue then is not anything you can specifically scream about and nitpick. it's performance, and that's what everyone's worried and annoyed about. The bonuses have been picked have fundamentally changed the inherent ROLE of the damn thing, which was in fact, quite popular for a variety of pve activities. Sure you can do pvp in it better now, but it is HILARIOUSLY vulnerable to tacklers! I mean...think of it this way: a single crow could pin one down and wait nearly half an hour for his friends to show up and help take the guy out, after the crow blaps whatever little small drones the rattler pilot decided to field, assuming he brought any.

So don't...for god's sake DON'T...waste our time spouting rage and filth at other people trying to have an adult conversation about important internet spaceships. Go release some of that obviously unhealthy rage and get some kills in-game; hopefully you'll find a rattlesnake pilot you might have blasted with gouts of flame and feel better about yourself so you can come back to the table and be civil.

Well as I have said, the issue is that the drone weapons system as a whole is being replaced.
I do agree that the missile changes are a net positive and a good thing. A nice buff that the rattlesnake needed.
IF OVERALL the drone system retains it's capabilities, then you will have a nicely balanced ship that has received just enough to let it be a decent pirate ship.

So if the new superdrone iteration can be as effective in applying damage to light targets, medium targets, and heavy targets, as currently, then the ship will succeed.

So either by giving the ship Gila class medium drones, with their DPS compatible with being fitted to a battleship, or by Some form of heavy drone that can apply damage to all ship classes, then either can replace the existing drone weapons system effectively.

There are far more details discussed as you know, so I do hope that no one just picks a juicy quote out of this reply without considering everything that has been written.

Correct on both points. The more civil tone is also much appreciated, thank you.

I think you're still focusing on the specific uses by the Rattlesnake.

While I suggest that it's actually a systemic issue with heavy drones themselves. What do you think about that?

Even though I'm not the one you're asking the response for, I think we can all agree that the rattlesnake and gila would both be better off with their old drone bonuses and bays back. Maybe a little nerf on the drones for the gila, but other than that, 10% bonus to drone damage and hp for each of them was fine. rolling the missile damage bonuses into the role bonus as range was would be ideal.