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Nerf Docking Games!

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The Sinister
Interbellum
#1 - 2014-05-01 14:21:58 UTC
Is there any way that CCP can PLEASE change the redocking timer from 1 minute to 5 minutes.

I would really want to see Docking Games controlled there is way to much abuse on that!

I want to see them comit to the fight like real men.
Naomi Anthar
#2 - 2014-05-01 15:24:57 UTC
-1 utterly horrible idea that only supports hotdropping squads.

If you don't like docking games don't fight at undock.

People are getting worse at this game , every day ... duh.

And for those that have aggresion timer it will mean they need to bounce around safespots a bit more etc. Just unecessary pain in ass.

Get some balls and try to fight somewhere else other than undock. Then point them and kill if you can (tho i doubt you can).
The Sinister
Interbellum
#3 - 2014-05-01 15:39:25 UTC
Naomi Anthar wrote:
-1 utterly horrible idea that only supports hotdropping squads.

If you don't like docking games don't fight at undock.

People are getting worse at this game , every day ... duh.

And for those that have aggresion timer it will mean they need to bounce around safespots a bit more etc. Just unecessary pain in ass.

Get some balls and try to fight somewhere else other than undock. Then point them and kill if you can (tho i doubt you can).



Here is a TROLL that likes Docking Games! ******.
The Sinister
Interbellum
#4 - 2014-05-01 15:40:57 UTC
I never fight at staition undocks!

Gypsio III
Questionable Ethics.
Ministry of Inappropriate Footwork
#5 - 2014-05-01 15:43:00 UTC
Increasing the timer just encourages docking games, because it encourages PVP on stations. The best way to nerf docking games would be to remove the timer altogether. This would make fighting on a station utterly pointless, and hence almost nobody would be stupid enough to do it. Hence, no docking games.
The Sinister
Interbellum
#6 - 2014-05-01 15:49:38 UTC
Gypsio III wrote:
Increasing the timer just encourages docking games, because it encourages PVP on stations. The best way to nerf docking games would be to remove the timer altogether. This would make fighting on a station utterly pointless, and hence almost nobody would be stupid enough to do it. Hence, no docking games.


It used to be like that back in the day! You could dock as soon as u stoped agression.
Daichi Yamato
Jabbersnarks and Wonderglass
#7 - 2014-05-01 16:29:57 UTC
point preventing dock was another idea

EVE FAQ "7.2 CAN I AVOID PVP COMPLETELY? No; there are no systems or locations in New Eden where PvP may be completely avoided"

Daichi Yamato's version of structure based decs

The Sinister
Interbellum
#8 - 2014-05-01 18:19:04 UTC
Naomi Anthar wrote:
-1 utterly horrible idea that only supports hotdropping squads.

If you don't like docking games don't fight at undock.

People are getting worse at this game , every day ... duh.

And for those that have aggresion timer it will mean they need to bounce around safespots a bit more etc. Just unecessary pain in ass.

Get some balls and try to fight somewhere else other than undock. Then point them and kill if you can (tho i doubt you can).



I remember You! you are the Fa ggot Slicer pilot who was whining in local cause you couldnt fight against my Sentinel. You said you didnt want to see me again well here I am *****!
Rivr Luzade
Coreli Corporation
Pandemic Legion
#9 - 2014-05-01 18:33:19 UTC
The Sinister wrote:
I never fight at staition undocks!



Then why do you care?

UI Improvement Collective

My ridicule, heavy criticism and general pale outlook about your or CCP's ideas is nothing but an encouragement to prove me wrong. Give it a try.

Omnathious Deninard
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2014-05-01 18:36:41 UTC
Best fix for docking games is don't fight on station.

If you don't follow the rules, neither will I.

EMU EVIL
Scythe Corporation
#11 - 2014-05-01 18:36:47 UTC
The Sinister wrote:
Is there any way that CCP can PLEASE change the redocking timer from 1 minute to 5 minutes.

I would really want to see Docking Games controlled there is way to much abuse on that!

I want to see them comit to the fight like real men.


The reason that there is fighting on the undock is to bait people into aggressing and then killing them in 1 minute before they can dock. Just don't be an idiot and shoot yellows on the station unless you have boys to support you. The only kills they get are idiots whom don't understand game mechanics and neutral logistics. You say "Nerf this!" but you are never even required to interact with people camping stations in High-sec and they can't shoot you until you shoot first. You see TheWidower in a flashy-yellow wolf and decide you can take him in your drake? You're going to lose when they undock 5 logis. If you don't know who is in the station, don't fight, it's like literally being on grid with their entire fleet and still attacking the bait sihp. I see this type of PvP the same way I see scamming. If you're stuipid enough to die to it, it's your fault. And it's not overpowered just because they've done their homework and you didn't.
EMU EVIL
Scythe Corporation
#12 - 2014-05-01 18:39:35 UTC
The Sinister wrote:

I remember You! you are the Fa ggot Slicer pilot who was whining in local cause you couldnt fight against my Sentinel. You said you didnt want to see me again well here I am *****!


Why would a slicer ever fight a sentinel? That doesn't even make sense. You have 31km neuts and he kites at 20km, uses cap for his guns and propulsions, and has a paper tank. A slicer isn't supposed to ever engage a sentinel.
Tengu Grib
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#13 - 2014-05-01 19:01:28 UTC
Came looking for a thread talking about docking games and suggestions for changing them.
Was disapointed.
Found an angry OP complaining about docking games then claiming he doesn't fight on undock.

OP has a point, but fails to present it or any solution with any ways other than rage.

-1

Rabble Rabble Rabble

Praise James, Supreme Protector of High Sec.

Petrified
Old and Petrified Syndication
#14 - 2014-05-01 20:12:44 UTC
So what you are asking for is that the aggression timer preventing people from docking gets changed from 60 seconds to 300 seconds? This of course would effect other things attached to that timer, such as jumping stargates.

While docking games are annoying, this is not the solution.

You have sixty seconds to kill the target if they agress you, zero if they do not, if you cannot muster the DPS to crush them in that time, then you need more DPS. That is the reasonable and non-game-hurting solution.

Cloaking is the closest thing to a "Pause Game" button one can get while in space.

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Gizznitt Malikite
Agony Unleashed
Agony Empire
#15 - 2014-05-01 20:18:58 UTC
Frankly, having logistics inherit weapons timers was a great nerf to docking games. I believe docking games are in a pretty solid place now, and don't see much of a need to nerf it further.

Don't fight on station is the easiest way to avoid docking games! And if your target doesn't leave station, then you don't have any reason to worry about them.