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An Announcement Regarding Real Life Harassment

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Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#2301 - 2014-04-26 12:21:34 UTC
So when can we expect your next butthurt threadnaught?

Or did you actually tell the truth last time, and finally quit the game forever?

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.
Infinity Ziona
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#2302 - 2014-04-26 12:30:05 UTC
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
So when can we expect your next butthurt threadnaught?

Or did you actually tell the truth last time, and finally quit the game forever?

Yeah I quit. Unsubbed all accounts. Won't be resubbing unless CCP scrapes the crap out of its themeparked sandbox.

CCP Fozzie “We can see how much money people are making in nullsec and it is, a gigantic amount, a shit-ton… in null sec anomalies. “*

Kaalrus pwned..... :)
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#2303 - 2014-04-26 12:38:22 UTC
Infinity Ziona wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
So when can we expect your next butthurt threadnaught?

Or did you actually tell the truth last time, and finally quit the game forever?

Yeah I quit. Unsubbed all accounts. Won't be resubbing unless CCP scrapes the crap out of its themeparked sandbox.


I really loved the part in your mmo.com forum post where Malcanis came and called you out for lying through your teeth. That made my day.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.
Infinity Ziona
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#2304 - 2014-04-26 12:39:29 UTC
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Infinity Ziona wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
So when can we expect your next butthurt threadnaught?

Or did you actually tell the truth last time, and finally quit the game forever?

Yeah I quit. Unsubbed all accounts. Won't be resubbing unless CCP scrapes the crap out of its themeparked sandbox.


I really loved the part in your mmo.com forum post where Malcanis came and called you out for lying through your teeth. That made my day.

Awesome.

CCP Fozzie “We can see how much money people are making in nullsec and it is, a gigantic amount, a shit-ton… in null sec anomalies. “*

Kaalrus pwned..... :)
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#2305 - 2014-04-26 12:43:14 UTC
Infinity Ziona wrote:

Awesome.


Indeed it was. My second favorite part was how several of the people agreeing with you were condoning and advocating sexual assault against the parents of people who do naughty things in videogames.

Pretty cool company you keep, huh?

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.
Benny Ohu
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#2306 - 2014-04-26 13:50:41 UTC
- continues crying that he can't destroy infrastructure without fighting the owners ("but i want to! therefore i'm entitled to" X)

- complains eve is "themeparked"
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#2307 - 2014-04-26 13:53:03 UTC
Benny Ohu wrote:
- continues crying that he can't destroy infrastructure without fighting the owners ("but i want to! therefore i'm entitled to" X)

- complains eve is "themeparked"


You should photoshop the Scumbag Steve hat onto the motorcycle picture. Then we can use it as a meme.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
#2308 - 2014-04-27 02:12:02 UTC
In before ISD.

Mr Epeen Cool
Infinity Ziona
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#2309 - 2014-04-27 10:49:36 UTC
Mr Epeen wrote:
In before ISD.

Mr Epeen Cool

Hopefully one will man up and take care of the trash... unlikely though

CCP Fozzie “We can see how much money people are making in nullsec and it is, a gigantic amount, a shit-ton… in null sec anomalies. “*

Kaalrus pwned..... :)
Abrei-Kaii
Petrolinvest
#2310 - 2014-04-28 02:48:38 UTC
Infinity Ziona wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
So when can we expect your next butthurt threadnaught?

Or did you actually tell the truth last time, and finally quit the game forever?

Yeah I quit. Unsubbed all accounts. Won't be resubbing unless CCP scrapes the crap out of its themeparked sandbox.


Your stuff, Can I have?
Asia Leigh
Kenshin.
Fraternity.
#2311 - 2014-04-28 08:37:09 UTC
Oh god... What the hell is IZ flooding the forums with his tears about this time >.>
Apply the damn rules equally >.>
Asia Leigh
Kenshin.
Fraternity.
#2312 - 2014-04-28 08:44:05 UTC
Never mind I found it :D

Infinity Ziona wrote:
There are a few routes people can to sue a games company.

I could likely sue CCP for breach of contract, and have been looking into it n regards to recovering money I paid them in return for services they promised and did not provide.

The general idea is that every transaction is a contract. If you pay some money to somebody for something you have created a contract, the terms of contract if not specified will be what a reasonable person expects to be promised in exchange for their valuable contribution, this is so even if no specific contract is in existence - refer to Donaghue v Stevenson 1932 regarding the snail in the bottle of gingerbeer.

When a specific contract exists that contract spells out the requirements of what is promised and while a company can try to indemnify itself with clauses those clauses often have no effect on the contract if they fall outside what can be reasonably be expected to be provided.

A company can say "you agree to indemnify XXX Pty Ltd for any damages caused even if those damages are a result of negligence of XXX Pty Ltd" however that clause is in most places invalidated by statute and case law. Its only put into the contract to dissuade people from taking action or to cover XXX Pty Ltd in the limited circumstances where the clause is valid in limited areas.

Regarding Virtual Property Law, there have been some judgements made which have found virtual property to not be the sole property of the company which 'owns' them.

The main thing that stops people from suing I think is more related to the value of the property vs the cost of persuing legal action against the companies in question.

In CCP's case, I think the big issue is going to be that certain entities in game now hold vast amounts of virtual property, some properly in the area of hundreds of thousands to millions of dollars given the conversion rate of isk to plex. In light of that it may become worthwhile and cost effective for someone to eventually sue CCP for damages in respect of losses.




So much fail in this post... What the hell are you talking about? You weren't banned, You choose not to use the service anymore... Please explain to me on what leg you have to stand on here. I would love to hear this.

Don't give up your day job, internet lawyering is not your thing.
Apply the damn rules equally >.>
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#2313 - 2014-04-28 13:12:23 UTC
Asia Leigh wrote:
Oh god... What the hell is IZ flooding the forums with his tears about this time >.>

Presumably how him smrt and we teh dum

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann
Infinity Ziona
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#2314 - 2014-04-28 21:05:34 UTC
Asia Leigh wrote:
Never mind I found it :D

Infinity Ziona wrote:
There are a few routes people can to sue a games company.

I could likely sue CCP for breach of contract, and have been looking into it n regards to recovering money I paid them in return for services they promised and did not provide.

The general idea is that every transaction is a contract. If you pay some money to somebody for something you have created a contract, the terms of contract if not specified will be what a reasonable person expects to be promised in exchange for their valuable contribution, this is so even if no specific contract is in existence - refer to Donaghue v Stevenson 1932 regarding the snail in the bottle of gingerbeer.

When a specific contract exists that contract spells out the requirements of what is promised and while a company can try to indemnify itself with clauses those clauses often have no effect on the contract if they fall outside what can be reasonably be expected to be provided.

A company can say "you agree to indemnify XXX Pty Ltd for any damages caused even if those damages are a result of negligence of XXX Pty Ltd" however that clause is in most places invalidated by statute and case law. Its only put into the contract to dissuade people from taking action or to cover XXX Pty Ltd in the limited circumstances where the clause is valid in limited areas.

Regarding Virtual Property Law, there have been some judgements made which have found virtual property to not be the sole property of the company which 'owns' them.

The main thing that stops people from suing I think is more related to the value of the property vs the cost of persuing legal action against the companies in question.

In CCP's case, I think the big issue is going to be that certain entities in game now hold vast amounts of virtual property, some properly in the area of hundreds of thousands to millions of dollars given the conversion rate of isk to plex. In light of that it may become worthwhile and cost effective for someone to eventually sue CCP for damages in respect of losses.




So much fail in this post... What the hell are you talking about? You weren't banned, You choose not to use the service anymore... Please explain to me on what leg you have to stand on here. I would love to hear this.

Don't give up your day job, internet lawyering is not your thing.

You not understanding basic legal principles doesn't make me wrong. Everyone should have this basic understanding of contracts. Doesn't require being a lawyer.

CCP Fozzie “We can see how much money people are making in nullsec and it is, a gigantic amount, a shit-ton… in null sec anomalies. “*

Kaalrus pwned..... :)
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#2315 - 2014-04-28 21:09:58 UTC
Oh hello,

I thought you were gone forever.

Murderers of Negotiable Motivations

=]|[=
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#2316 - 2014-04-28 21:14:19 UTC
Infinity Ziona wrote:

You not understanding basic legal principles doesn't make me wrong. Everyone should have this basic understanding of contracts. Doesn't require being a lawyer.

No but you not understanding them dose.

You know I haven't seen divine around today, and then you show up...

Murderers of Negotiable Motivations

=]|[=
Asia Leigh
Kenshin.
Fraternity.
#2317 - 2014-04-28 23:02:27 UTC
Infinity Ziona wrote:
You not understanding basic legal principles doesn't make me wrong. Everyone should have this basic understanding of contracts. Doesn't require being a lawyer.


I don't think you understand them either.... You Can't terminate a contract on your own, then sue for breach of contract. You pay for a service and your getting it. If you don't want to use it anymore that's your problem and not CCP's...

And that contract your talking about, Its called an EULA and the TOS, you know those things your supposed to read after every patch and every time you buy something from account management? Yeah, next time you don't agree with something don't click on "I AGREE", mkay? 
Apply the damn rules equally >.>
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#2318 - 2014-04-29 09:54:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Ramona McCandless
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
Oh hello,

I thought you were gone forever.


Skank: [fast and hysterically] That's him! That's him! But he looked different. He was all painted up white like some sort of dead whore! I seen him! T-Bird he sent me in some road beers, right? Then he took him away. But, I chased him down. And he flash fried T-bird to his ******* car! Aww, T-Bird here's to you buddy.
[drinks his flask]

Skank: Fire it up! Fire it up! Fire it up!

Top Dollar: Maybe we oughta just video tape this, play it back in slow motion.

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann
Antisocial Malkavian
Antisocial Malkavians
#2319 - 2014-05-01 06:05:58 UTC
Infinity Ziona wrote:
Mr Epeen wrote:
In before ISD.

Mr Epeen Cool

Hopefully one will man up and take care of the trash... unlikely though



They still wade through this cesspool? I thought they gave it up to let som,eone do something like irl threats so they have an excuse to close it

And, isn't sanity really just a one-trick pony anyway? I mean all you get is one trick, rational thinking, but when you're good and crazy, oooh, oooh, oooh, the sky is the limit.

DrysonBennington
Eagle's Talon's
#2320 - 2014-05-01 18:26:48 UTC
To keep Eve-Online from being branded a "Bad sort of game because of harassment." I propose that the following takes place.

CCP shall keep and maintain an updated list of 2nd and third party websites that have Eve-Online content that is part of their website. A website with any Eve-Online content located on its pages should go through an extensive scanning process, which all know CCP has, to search for Trojan virus creators and password and account phishing software that may be located on the websites server if the server is being operated by an independent source and not a company.

The second it to create an Entry Portal Website that would contain several threads for Possible Rookies to post on in regards to joining the Eve-Online environment along with being able to watch both DEV created and player created movies to help the Possible Rookie determine if they want to sign on.

Once the Possible Rookie decides to sign on they would then have full access to the regular Forums but until they have purchased as paid for account they would be regulated to the Possible Rookie portal.