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Why I think Project: Valkyrie should be a racing game

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supernova ranger
The End of Eternity
#1 - 2014-05-01 03:42:54 UTC

One aspect of lore I believe EVE is missing is the entertainment industry. I think putting up rankings on the billboards and inside the space stations of star races are going to generate some interest. You couple that with corporations sponsoring entry fees and parts for their name plastered over a racer and you’ve got the potential for something big.

Additionally I don’t think racing is a very well tapped market. Since Mario cart (which is still in demand) I don’t know any other game which has gotten on par with it in terms of effect.

Let’s make it big, let’s make stars and celebrities out of the people who make it to the top. Hell, call a solar system champions lane and name the planets and moons after the legends that make it to the top.

Year one: grand champion of the final big race gets planet one named after him. Moons are then named for time trials, 1st place seasonal, drag race, cross country, exc.

Valkyrie would be great for this… a flying space race. You’re not going to compete with other mmos and you can integrate gambling into the game. More over races can be fixed and what not for it goes with the nature of eve.

As a bonus I also think it would be easier to create as ur limiting the field of play to lanes and you can always shove people into a planets cave if you really don’t want to make a big space.

Of course the racers have weapons on board, what race doesn’t and that would be hellsa fun.
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Doomheim
#2 - 2014-05-01 04:09:51 UTC
like the idea of it, but not racing, racing in space is a bore.
Rivr Luzade
Coreli Corporation
Pandemic Legion
#3 - 2014-05-01 07:16:25 UTC
Except for the romance part, The Race (Voyager) was quite a nice and dangerous activity. If people could set up a race track with obstacles, acid clouds (think about Recon 3/3), dense asteroid fields, etc., it would make up for a nice community event once or twice a year.

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My ridicule, heavy criticism and general pale outlook about your or CCP's ideas is nothing but an encouragement to prove me wrong. Give it a try.

Julius Rigel
#4 - 2014-05-01 10:15:10 UTC
supernova ranger wrote:
One aspect of lore I believe EVE is missing is the entertainment industry.
I think you haven't done proper research for this topic if you haven't found the entertainment industry in EVE.[/quote]

Even with minimal search engine use I come up with a lot:

Keywords "eve online racing" into google.

Keywords "frigate tournament" (didn't even need "eve online" for this one, YMMV).

And so on. There's a lot of spectator stuff happening (look in the In-Game Events & Gatherings forum section), and plenty of films / videos being produced (look in My EVE), tons of literature, fiction, travel logs, battle reports, etc., if you look in the writing sections of the forum. There's plenty of entertainment.

supernova ranger wrote:
I think putting up rankings on the billboards and inside the space stations of star races are going to generate some interest. You couple that with corporations sponsoring entry fees and parts for their name plastered over a racer and you’ve got the potential for something big.
All the larger, more regular competitions used to have some form of rankings / statistics on their websites. There was an arena thing that would host and track duelling leagues and stuff, with rankings for all the fighters. The various racing leagues had statistics on their racers. Admittedly, racing is kind of an underground thing, mostly because people aren't really interested in doing things which don't involve shooting (at rocks, players, little red crosses, etc.).

supernova ranger wrote:
Additionally I don’t think racing is a very well tapped market. Since Mario cart (which is still in demand) I don’t know any other game which has gotten on par with it in terms of effect.
Uh... Trackmania, for one. It's even at World Cyber Games. There are kart racing games as well which have professional scenes in parts of the world.

supernova ranger wrote:
Let’s make it big, let’s make stars and celebrities out of the people who make it to the top. Hell, call a solar system champions lane and name the planets and moons after the legends that make it to the top.

Year one: grand champion of the final big race gets planet one named after him. Moons are then named for time trials, 1st place seasonal, drag race, cross country, exc.

Valkyrie would be great for this… a flying space race. You’re not going to compete with other mmos and you can integrate gambling into the game. More over races can be fixed and what not for it goes with the nature of eve.

As a bonus I also think it would be easier to create as ur limiting the field of play to lanes and you can always shove people into a planets cave if you really don’t want to make a big space.

Of course the racers have weapons on board, what race doesn’t and that would be hellsa fun.
I think this is a great idea for an event. It sounds a lot like what the racing community has been doing in the past. I don't quite see why it would need to be in Valkyrie, and I don't see CCP gutting Valkyrie to build a completely different, not-space-shooter out of it when they're already quite a ways along and have plan for it.

Why not try to make something like this yourself, in-game? We've done it before, it's a lot of fun if you can find other people who are willing to try something different.
supernova ranger
The End of Eternity
#5 - 2014-05-03 20:45:59 UTC
Julius Rigel wrote:
supernova ranger wrote:
One aspect of lore I believe EVE is missing is the entertainment industry.
I think you haven't done proper research for this topic if you haven't found the entertainment industry in EVE.


Even with minimal search engine use I come up with a lot:

Keywords "eve online racing" into google.

Keywords "frigate tournament" (didn't even need "eve online" for this one, YMMV).

And so on. There's a lot of spectator stuff happening (look in the In-Game Events & Gatherings forum section), and plenty of films / videos being produced (look in My EVE), tons of literature, fiction, travel logs, battle reports, etc., if you look in the writing sections of the forum. There's plenty of entertainment.

supernova ranger wrote:
I think putting up rankings on the billboards and inside the space stations of star races are going to generate some interest. You couple that with corporations sponsoring entry fees and parts for their name plastered over a racer and you’ve got the potential for something big.
All the larger, more regular competitions used to have some form of rankings / statistics on their websites. There was an arena thing that would host and track duelling leagues and stuff, with rankings for all the fighters. The various racing leagues had statistics on their racers. Admittedly, racing is kind of an underground thing, mostly because people aren't really interested in doing things which don't involve shooting (at rocks, players, little red crosses, etc.).

supernova ranger wrote:
Additionally I don’t think racing is a very well tapped market. Since Mario cart (which is still in demand) I don’t know any other game which has gotten on par with it in terms of effect.
Uh... Trackmania, for one. It's even at World Cyber Games. There are kart racing games as well which have professional scenes in parts of the world.

supernova ranger wrote:
Let’s make it big, let’s make stars and celebrities out of the people who make it to the top. Hell, call a solar system champions lane and name the planets and moons after the legends that make it to the top.

Year one: grand champion of the final big race gets planet one named after him. Moons are then named for time trials, 1st place seasonal, drag race, cross country, exc.

Valkyrie would be great for this… a flying space race. You’re not going to compete with other mmos and you can integrate gambling into the game. More over races can be fixed and what not for it goes with the nature of eve.

As a bonus I also think it would be easier to create as ur limiting the field of play to lanes and you can always shove people into a planets cave if you really don’t want to make a big space.

Of course the racers have weapons on board, what race doesn’t and that would be hellsa fun.
I think this is a great idea for an event. It sounds a lot like what the racing community has been doing in the past. I don't quite see why it would need to be in Valkyrie, and I don't see CCP gutting Valkyrie to build a completely different, not-space-shooter out of it when they're already quite a ways along and have plan for it.

Why not try to make something like this yourself, in-game? We've done it before, it's a lot of fun if you can find other people who are willing to try something different.[/quote]

I'm aware of racing in Eve but with manually flight controls as they, aka virtually non-existent, it isn't really racing. What I'm thinking is along the lines of an old game i used to play, Quantum Redshift, and a movie, death race, but in the air and with weapons on all the time. Something like the interceptor in strike suit zero but limited to a run in a tunnel.

When I talk about the entertainment industry, I think more along the idea of our sports or something. Like the "non-immortals" in eve turn on the TV to watch what? Politics? Sector A, B and C have been lost, over and over? Tutorials on how to duck and cover?

We like to watch the Indy 500 and I think this would be the equivalent of a future version of it. You could watch your guy sit down in station and watch the racing. People could be hired to fly spectator crafts and film the races first hand.

It'll keep the spirit of space combat but direct it towards a goal, you can still have area matches where its the last man standing but this would add allot more flavor.