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Nalelmir Ahashion
Industrial Management and Engineering
Mouth Trumpet Cavalry
#1 - 2014-04-30 02:08:37 UTC
So I like to read the recruitment forums, check out the recruitment board in game and in general speak with new people on local chat....

I'm playing eve for year +- now and NEVER EVER NEVER EVER I've found a specialized corp. well found two of those but I was never member so can't take that for fact (red frog [ haul] \ pro synergy[salvage]).

So I'm new player... I tend to look for groups to be part of while playing online so I start looking for specialized corps which specialize in specific area....

Let's take an example...

Let's say I'm Pvp'er, so I'll look for a corp which emphasize on pvp and have some kind of doctrine (shield\armor - weapon types etc...). Also in case that that corp lives in low\null I'll love to make sure I'll have a way to restock on ships and get some isk along the way while I'm there.
So you get my point.... looking for corp which is organised and focused around their so called main activity.
Then you'll join just to learn they make a roam once in a while some of them run missions other will do mining and no reimbursement or re-stock plans for ships etc..

Then maybe I'm industrialist, taking main interest in mining and refining. In such case I'll want a corp with some kind of central base and supplies.... gear for corp members to use, mining ops, ore\minerals buy program, mix of different kinds of divisions which benefits each other. Then you join just to be "rap-ed" into pvp training and do pvp roams while not even getting the basics of orca boosts here and there... Hell, even need to use red frog for hauling instead of "industrial corp" services.
Again some will run missions, other will pvp, some will do exploration...

So I went into recruitment forums today just to giggle again....
Loads of posts about pvp\indy\wh\null corps and once you enter the thread suddenly you get a list of every activity in EVE which you can think of mixed in there.



TL;DR
And here I ask you,
shouldn't corps in eve like RL corps have some kind of specialization to complement their members play-style and then collaborate with their alliance in some kind of symbiotic way instead of just being "guild" wow style where everyone do what he wants in utter chaos without focus of some kind?

In my vision when I read about eve and corporations I thought for example that Industry corporation for example will have services fitted for their indy members and that each member should take part in theri indy centered activities...
That PVP corp should have a purpose (FW \ MERCS \ Pirates etc..) and have some organisations and logistics to support their members...
That each corp will have different levels of activities so new players and old players alike can take part....

Well guess I'm wrong or have really bad luck with corps.
Brooks Puuntai
Solar Nexus.
#2 - 2014-04-30 02:13:44 UTC
Over specialization leads to stagnation.

CCP's Motto: If it isn't broken, break it. If it is broken, ignore it. Improving NPE / Dynamic New Eden

Malcolm Shinhwa
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2014-04-30 02:13:57 UTC
Most good corps do have some sort of speciality. You can usually tell the bad ones because they say they do everything. The really bad ones do everything in all time zones. The horrible ones do everything in all time zones and all areas of space. Those are the best for safaris and awoxing :)

[i]"The purpose of fighting is to win. There is no possible victory in defense. The sword is more important than the shield and skill is more important than either. The final weapon is the brain. All else is supplemental[/i]."

Nalelmir Ahashion
Industrial Management and Engineering
Mouth Trumpet Cavalry
#4 - 2014-04-30 02:14:58 UTC
Malcolm Shinhwa wrote:
Most good corps do have some sort of speciality. You can usually tell the bad ones because they say they do everything. The really bad ones do everything in all time zones. The horrible ones do everything in all time zones and all areas of space. Those are the best for safaris and awoxing :)


like you read my mind....
Scipio Artelius
Weaponised Vegemite
Flying Dangerous
#5 - 2014-04-30 02:22:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Scipio Artelius
Nalelmir Ahashion wrote:
shouldn't corps in eve like RL corps have some kind of specialization to complement their members play-style and then collaborate with their alliance in some kind of symbiotic way instead of just being "guild" wow style where everyone do what he wants in utter chaos without focus of some kind?

In my vision when I read about eve and corporations I thought for example that Industry corporation for example will have services fitted for their indy members and that each member should take part in theri indy centered activities...
That PVP corp should have a purpose (FW \ MERCS \ Pirates etc..) and have some organisations and logistics to support their members...
That each corp will have different levels of activities so new players and old players alike can take part....

Well guess I'm wrong or have really bad luck with corps.

Different people want different things in the game and I think for the most part, people who start a Corp have really little idea of the best way to organise and run a business.

Jack-of-all-trades Corps can suit some people, but focused Corps will do a better job of providing fun to people who want that specific activity.

Focused Corps do exist, but a lot of Corp ads I read seem to focus their message more on what the Corp wants or what the CEO of the Corp desires, rather than matching the desires of prospective members. A lot of those Corps end up fading away though to. I think if you look at specialist Corps, they are more active because the community they develop internally is more cohesive.

But each to their own.
Coffee Rocks
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#6 - 2014-04-30 03:12:46 UTC
A good corporation is flexible and expands, but yes, specialization is needed to a degree to be successful. For example, our corp centers around T2 production and takes steps to offer members better access and resources. However, as time goes, you have to expand or die, and tend to offer more opportunities for members.
Coffee Rocks
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#7 - 2014-04-30 03:19:29 UTC
Malcolm Shinhwa wrote:
Most good corps do have some sort of speciality. You can usually tell the bad ones because they say they do everything. The horrible ones do everything in all time zones and all areas of space.


I selectively quoted you - you know why :) Grrrcarebears
Also, o/ Tweetfleet bud

- Specialty - when starting out, YES.
- The second sentence - eh, to a degree. For instance, if you are like us - a corp in a meg-alliance, you add things like "wormholes, LS, and Sov" b/c you participate in those areas on Alliance level fleet ops or Sister corp's supporting programs.
As for the TZs, if you are are a single corp with 100 active players or less, YES. And all areas of space? Very few have the numbers to be "active" in all areas, and would have to be a very unique roaming PvP or hauling corp (I was thinking Rote Kapelle, but they are stricly Null for the most part)
Alduin666 Shikkoken
Doomheim
#8 - 2014-04-30 07:07:17 UTC
OP hasn't left highsec yet.

Honor is a fools prize. [I]Glory is of no use to the dead.[/I]

Be a man! Post with your main! ~Vas'Avi Community Manager

Karen Avioras
The Raging Raccoons
#9 - 2014-04-30 07:51:53 UTC
Is the tl;dr half the lenght pf the text?
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#10 - 2014-04-30 08:35:29 UTC
Malcolm Shinhwa wrote:
Most good corps do have some sort of speciality. You can usually tell the bad ones because they say they do everything. The really bad ones do everything in all time zones. The horrible ones do everything in all time zones and all areas of space. Those are the best for safaris and awoxing :)


Good job I would never be associated with such a terrible band of chaotic carebears.....

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann

Nalelmir Ahashion
Industrial Management and Engineering
Mouth Trumpet Cavalry
#11 - 2014-04-30 13:55:39 UTC
Alduin666 Shikkoken wrote:
OP hasn't left highsec yet.


Even if I did so how does it matter?
And yes I was member in corps which were based in low sec and such but due to logistics being sucks beyond measure I left. I don't feel it to train an alt just to haul stuff from highsec only to "contract without collateral to the ceo hauling alt" my stuff.. sorry ain't happening.



Karen Avioras wrote:
Is the tl;dr half the lenght pf the text?


There is one.. keep looking... I can try to paint it in glowy pink but I don't want your head to blow up from over information.