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Zifrian
Federal Defense Union
Gallente Federation
#81 - 2011-12-02 12:34:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Zifrian
It is important to realize that there are real people behind the avatar, however those same people need to accept reality of the world we live in - people in general are not always nice to others. A capitalistic society, which I'm sure a majority of us live in, encourages competition and selfish behavior. That's why we have rules to attempt to limit such behavior.

EVE doesn't really have those rules and the internet as a whole doesn't really either. Ever read a comment section on a news article?

Wishing that people recognize that there is someone behind the avatar before doing mean things is wishing for a "if people would" world instead of a "people are" world. When playing this game, I would suggest paying some attention to the "people are" world and accept it.

That said, I hope this person feels better and gets on track with his life soon.

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Proteus Maximus
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#82 - 2011-12-02 12:37:31 UTC
While I feel for you OP you have done your husband a disservice here. This hobby is not for people with addictive personalities who may become emotionally compromised. I players lives and dies in this game solely on the sharpness of one's mind.
He had the foresight to see his addiction needed to be adressed. He also should have used that realization to wire his **** tight before he left. . . or expect it to be gone on his return chalking the looses up as casualties of his addiction.
My advice is to spend your time restoring his self worth and not pointing the blame finger at this game & the players with the intelligence & self control to keep everyone at arms length.

If Goons were around when God said, "Let there be light" they'd have called the light gay, and plunged the universe back into darkness by squatting their nutsacks over it.
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#83 - 2011-12-02 13:11:06 UTC
People with osteoporosis should not play full contact sports and then expect the rules to be changed to suit them.

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016
Arkon Hjallian
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#84 - 2011-12-02 13:13:23 UTC
Obligatory Can I have his stuff?

owait...
gfldex
#85 - 2011-12-02 13:16:37 UTC
How does that "personal POS"-thing work? Did I miss something in the patch notes? And how did he got his "personal POS" fueled while he was AFK? I can't help it but there seam to be a few missing spots on that story, no matter how heartbreaking the outcome was. His wife for sure didn't do him a favour, nor did the OP.

The person is question, we will learn the name soon enough, will forever been known as the idiot that left billions in space while taking a break. Well done OP.

If you take all the sand out of the box, only the cat poo will remain.
Mortis vonShadow
Balanaz Mining and Development Inc.
#86 - 2011-12-02 13:25:45 UTC
I call bullshi**! This is a story based on a post by the "wife" of the player. Then reposted by an alt. Hmmmm....

Sorry, don't buy it. Post a link of a video of the actual dude in rehab, then you'll have my sympathy about his addiction.

As for the gaming aspect of it, he's played since 2004 and he doesn't realize that walking away from the game for 1 day opens him up to something of this nature???


TTFN, better luck next time to garner sympathy for scamming.

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Janos Saal
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#87 - 2011-12-02 13:29:17 UTC
lmao

EVE is dead
T'amber Anomandari Demaleon
#88 - 2011-12-02 13:34:28 UTC
Issler Dainze wrote:
Sad tale of woe to be sure. One hard lesson I learned in Eve (and sadly get retaught on occasion) Eve makes folks evil. Unless you know someone well in RL and encounter them regularly you should never trust anyone with anything of value. Once in a while a rare person comes along to earn more trust and I'll bend that rule a bit, but even then I assume anything I put at risk will be lost in the end.

Hope your husband recovers and finds a better lot to cast in with and he finds some joy in the 'verse again soon.


There are people in game I trusted with all my collections, isk and other valuables and not one took anything that wasn't offered first. There are way more trustworthy people in eve than everyone says or thinks.


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Red Templar
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#89 - 2011-12-02 14:42:48 UTC
Even if this is true, and not a massive troll - where is the scam part in what happened? Scam is a con, its only target is taking away persons assets. Scam is intentional. This guy was part of the corp for a long time, so i guess no one tried tricking him into putting up a POS and putting most of his assets there.

And then he left the game. For a long time. Care to guess what happened with a POS? Fuel ended and it fuckin screamed for a long time and annoyed POS managers. Care to guess what POS managers did to un-attended POS? They un-anchored it, with everything in it. And probably confiscated the stuff as punishment. No big surprise there.

Im sorry to break it to you, but there is no such a thing as personal pos in this game. They are all corporate. If you want it truly to be personal - create your own 1 man corp and mount it there. Then no one can touch it.

The questions is - did he warn anyone about his absence?? I have a feeling that no. If that was an intervention on the part of the family, then he probably didnt have any time. Otherwise he would probably remove the pos and put everything to station. Was there anyone in the corp that was aware of his situation and what is happening to him? I do not see answer to this question here.

If he did warn that he will be absent and asked someone to take care of it - then yes, that is a very dirty thing to take away stuff from the guy who said that he is sick and will be absent for a long time.

So, excuse me, but i dont see scam in this. If it was a scam, he would lose all his stuff long before that.
And trying to present this unfortunate situation as pinnacle of evilness of human nature is a crappy thing to do. You try to use personal tragedy to put some dirt on people who may not even be aware of the details and just did the things they had to do.


Hope he gets well.

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Whyumadtho
Doomheim
#90 - 2011-12-02 14:50:51 UTC
Alternatively: scamming reaches a new high.

Just sayin...
Wibla
Tactical Narcotics Team
#91 - 2011-12-02 15:06:14 UTC
Did some digging...

Bad troll, 2/10.
Krios Ahzek
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#92 - 2011-12-02 15:08:38 UTC
To summarize:

Drugs are bad m'kay.

 Though All Men Do Despise Us
Barakkus
#93 - 2011-12-02 15:14:32 UTC
AkJon Ferguson wrote:

Btw, abusing an addictive prescription medication (I'm sure he was warned not to take it more often than prescribed) is no different than abusing any other substance. That stuff ain't candy.


Doesn't matter if you're warned or not, the brain and the body does funny things when you become addicted to something, reasoning goes completely out the window for the most part.

http://youtu.be/yytbDZrw1jc
Cpt Greagor
Liquid Relief
#94 - 2011-12-02 15:15:26 UTC
If he was not fully aware that this could, and probably would, happen at any point, he obviously hasn't played this game very much. I'm not going to say that taking his things was right, but it wasn't wrong either. Eve is not a game where you win by being nice. You get rich by taking what you can when you can. This was a great opportunity to get very rich. I would probably have done the same. Personally, I don't trust anyone in Eve unless I know them in real life.

Now on to the matter of his attempted suicide. That is completely his fault. Eve is a GAME. It is not real life.
You lost everything? So what, start over. If you did it once you can do it again, except better this time. Now you know just how cruel and heartless space is. You will protect your things this time. You will build your fortune faster as you know the best ways from doing it the first time.

If he takes Eve that seriously that he swallowed a bunch of pills I think he might need to take a break for a while.

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Ayuren Aakiwa
When i Look Up At The Stars I Am Filled With Rage
#95 - 2011-12-02 15:25:54 UTC
I didn't read most of this thread, but it seems like a drug addict ignored his wife and baby for pills and spaceships, got robbed in game and attempted suicide(?)

Welcome to eve Lol
Renan Ruivo
Forcas armadas
Brave Collective
#96 - 2011-12-02 15:28:16 UTC
Like i said before, there's a fine line between being a "cold and harsh" universe and being a "cruel and inhumane" place.

Betraying him and taking everything he had is cold and harsh. Just business, it happens.. no hard feelings.. pick your associates better next time around. C'est la vie.

But taunting, laughing and ridiculing someone when you know of the sorts of troubles said person is going through in real life has nothing to do with EVE or its universe. That is being outright cruel, and there is no place for that in this game in my humble opinion.

Take everything i own and leave me broke, sure. Just don't spit in my face.

The world is a community of idiots doing a series of things until it explodes and we all die.
Ginta Suiseiseki
Incognito Mode
Brotherhood of Spacers
#97 - 2011-12-02 15:42:54 UTC
No sir.. it realy happend as it was written in that post. Accurate to the word.
It was planed in LVSKY BBQ in 2004 on the shore of baltic sea.

His wish to build a supercap was the reason for it..
We wanted to work hard and donate funds to a Minmatar Kids Orphanage building fund. but he decided to ignore it and build a supercap.
this had to be dealt with


While he was mining minerals at THE belt on that faithfull day of 28 november the button was pushed.
All the cap parts wer reprocesed and rebuilt as toys for Orphans.
Mupdadoodidda Bix Nood
Doomheim
#98 - 2011-12-02 15:45:47 UTC
Scammers are evil c/d?
Soon Shin
Scarlet Weather Rhapsody
#99 - 2011-12-02 16:07:48 UTC
I personally think your husband has some mental issues and problems if losing ingame stuff causes him to become like this.

Sure what his "friends" did was unfair, but that's just way things are ingame and real life.

I personally believe that you should be going to him and helping him, rather than worry about EVE.


Mortis vonShadow
Balanaz Mining and Development Inc.
#100 - 2011-12-02 16:10:40 UTC
Soon Shin wrote:


I personally believe that you should be going to him and helping him, rather than worry about EVE.




Hence why the post is all made up. If you really cared about someones welfare, would you be going on a games forums and talking about it?

Some days you're the bug, and some days your the windscreen.                   And some days, you're just a man with a gun.