Player Features and Ideas Discussion

I'm not even really sure what the large nullsec coalition folks (including those in my own "blob coalition") are worried about. The cost increase is absolutely trivial and the logistics of carrying the fuel have not changed.

The RZR dude has a fair point, though -- you may want to revisit compressed ice volumes and ensure they're brought in line with the changes made here.

that's because changes like this have forced them to the brink of extinction, and even if they did post they're so rare and unheard of you wouldn't notice who they are anyway.

Well you could say maybe it's because a lot of the "nullscrubs" as you put it don't want to be slaves of their masters and want more independence and the game is slowly making that a least viable option. I'd say almost every player in this game wants to be independent to a certain degree and possibly start a corp or alliance with one of their alts in hopes of it becoming something bigger or being able to live nomadic like and still plex their accounts. With changes like this they are being forced.. or rather more inclined to stay within there fat alliances or coalitions OR even perhaps join/merge in to one. Players want to play the game for free rather than be independent and subscribe their accounts, which tells you what they think of the game.

All these changes scream, more blobs, coaltion members, more tidi, more inflation, more plex buying. Also you should be glad we are looking out for you, the little guys, smaller alliances and other players in general. Don't stop being cool.

I love when Fozzie drops terrible ideas and then disappears into the mists- it makes me feel like a valued customer of CCP.

CCP - congrats you finally found that last nail.

Looking forward to the layoffs next Christmas

OK just to sum it up:

Jumping any capital will be 50 % more expensive and bridging is still cheap as ****.

Manufacturing in 00 was ment to be buffed with this expansion but it nerfed.

Small alliances that could be a thread to any big coalition (and thus create content!!!!) are nerfed to ineffectiveness and their life is made even more expensive with this (Small alliances don´t have the money creating capabilities of big coalitions nor the ratting space for the members).

Why don´t you increase the costs of bridging ships with titans? Now it will be worth jumping the first part with a JF to null and than just use titans that bridge your freighter (which can hold 3 times the goods than a JF) to the destination or maybe another "HUB" up in the 00 region where you can switch to a JF to get to the single systems withe the needed fuel /moongoods/materials.

The solution is not to nerf fuel consumption on all capitals but to nerf certain capitals as they are a too big part of power projection. Titans are strategicly important for the movement of big fleets. Big 00 block have them which is fine. But it has to be somewhat expensive to have the advantage to move a fleet directly into the target system instead of moving it through gates.

Also: Supers have the same base fuel usage than carriers but have a bigger mass and a bigger resource consumption for building.

Why do supers need as much fuel as normal carriers for the same jump?

Shouldn´t be Titans with their extremely useful strategic options and supers which are important for current 00 warfere/sov warefare be using more fuel so if big alliances use them they pay for the big advantage?

Don´t nerf the 00 industry you just try to improve. The minerals you get more with a fully upgraded outpost in 00 are useless if it is too expensive to move the build mods or ships to Highsec/The warzone for actual use. Please don´t make the players do the same thing after you focussed too much on walking on stations. Find a way to create more conflicts because without any conflict eve will be boring and the industry (you just revamped) will die due to not enough ships been blown up in wars.

Edit: Also you are nerfing the Blops gangs from small corps alliances that annoy big alliances and after the siphon I thgought ccp wants to improve guerilla warfare possibilities and not nerf them.

PS: This is my personal opinion and not the one of my Alliance or Corparation.

Man, poor Fozzie. The only way he'll get to 10k likes now is to delete capitals, or something massive to appease the clueless fools crying "power projection" every five minutes.

So in other words a flat out consumption tax nerf to anyone living outside of null, which includes not just highsec carebears but also lowsec and wormhole dwellers who won't have nullsec docking rights or sufficient risk/reward incentive to purchase out of null even if things are cheaper there.

more like you're a clueless fool

feedback; now classed as tears.