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Maya Bewell
MorningStar Technology
#1 - 2014-04-29 05:31:06 UTC
I was just reading over http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/building-better-worlds/

"In turn, this allows us to change several points:

Allow Starbases to be anchored anywhere in high-security space and without standing requirements (minus some protected solar systems, like Jita or new player starting systems of course)."

Do I read this as any standings grind for high sec pos placement any player has done now invalid?

I am trying to understand the term "anywhere in High-Secuiry space" , do you think this would mean in say Safe spots?

Your thoughts...
Rowells
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#2 - 2014-04-29 05:49:17 UTC
yes. Anywhere. Want one in Astoh? go ahead. how about Tolle? all yours.

All of them excluding mentioned ones.
Maya Bewell
MorningStar Technology
#3 - 2014-04-29 05:51:22 UTC
Rowells wrote:
yes. Anywhere. Want one in Astoh? go ahead. how about Tolle? all yours.

All of them excluding mentioned ones.


Do you think we will see pos spamming in High now?
Rowells
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#4 - 2014-04-29 06:02:03 UTC
Maya Bewell wrote:
Rowells wrote:
yes. Anywhere. Want one in Astoh? go ahead. how about Tolle? all yours.

All of them excluding mentioned ones.


Do you think we will see pos spamming in High now?

yes. If there can be a POS there, someone will likely drop one. even as a placeholder.
Rivr Luzade
Coreli Corporation
Pandemic Legion
#5 - 2014-04-29 06:15:53 UTC
But still only around moons. Blink

... and apart from clowns, who would want to have a POS in Amarr or Jita (which will hopefully excluded) or a system next Jita anyways? There'll be so many clowns that your POS puts your corp under constant danger of getting war-dec'd. That's not a problem for big players, as it provides content for them they don't find elsewhere, but smaller fish can hardly cope with that threat if they want to do uninterrupted operations. In my opinion at least.

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Maya Bewell
MorningStar Technology
#6 - 2014-04-29 08:46:07 UTC
Rivr Luzade wrote:
But still only around moons. Blink

... and apart from clowns, who would want to have a POS in Amarr or Jita (which will hopefully excluded) or a system next Jita anyways? There'll be so many clowns that your POS puts your corp under constant danger of getting war-dec'd. That's not a problem for big players, as it provides content for them they don't find elsewhere, but smaller fish can hardly cope with that threat if they want to do uninterrupted operations. In my opinion at least.


How would this differ from now do you think? There are plenty of Research Towers around now, all able to be WD´ed. The ability to, post update, not require standings and place "anywhere" would just increase the number, no?

I don´t see anything that changes other then not needing to grind standings. Economically in BPC terms, up and coming compression/Reprocessing (read refining) arrays, they become open to anyone, not just the exclusive 5+ standings grinder.

I´m no economics major, but the corp+pos for sale, bpc and refining business just got (will) become much more competitative, no?

I am trying to understand the taking away of requiring standings, as that was a barrier alot of folks didnt want to do, lets face it is (was) a boring,long, annoying, grind, for me at least. Now that grind seems pointless.
Seliah
Red Cloud Vigil
#7 - 2014-04-29 09:01:02 UTC
Maya Bewell wrote:
The ability to, post update, not require standings and place "anywhere" would just increase the number, no?


Yes and no. At the moment, all the moons in "interesting" systems are already all occupied, so not having to grind standings won't change much.

However, when you combine this with the removal of industry slots, which are being replaced by a cost scaling system depending on how busy the system already is, well, it'll give much more value to space where there was little activity before, so i guess there will be more POS's in systems that are currently empty-ish.

I like the change overall, should create some nice dynamics.
Maya Bewell
MorningStar Technology
#8 - 2014-04-29 09:22:50 UTC
Seliah wrote:
Maya Bewell wrote:
The ability to, post update, not require standings and place "anywhere" would just increase the number, no?


Yes and no. At the moment, all the moons in "interesting" systems are already all occupied, so not having to grind standings won't change much.

However, when you combine this with the removal of industry slots, which are being replaced by a cost scaling system depending on how busy the system already is, well, it'll give much more value to space where there was little activity before, so i guess there will be more POS's in systems that are currently empty-ish.

I like the change overall, should create some nice dynamics.


Yes, good point.
Jacob Holland
Weyland-Vulcan Industries
#9 - 2014-04-29 17:25:21 UTC
One factor not yet clear from my perspective are the non-empire sov systems - It was never possible to grind standings for a POS in CONCORD sov space after all...
It's likely that a good deal of the systems that might open up are classified as starter systems due to The Blood Stained Stars epic arc but I would not be surprised to see several towers appear just outside the area.
Azami Nevinyrall
172.0.0.1
#10 - 2014-04-29 17:33:02 UTC
Day 1 of the summer expansion will see a gold rush of highsec moons real estate...

I have already got my plots of dirt picked out.....have you?

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Barbara Nichole
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#11 - 2014-04-29 17:53:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Barbara Nichole
I want to drop my full loaded death star POS right on the jump gate.....

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Sato Page
Auctor Illuminatas Infinitum
#12 - 2014-04-29 18:19:38 UTC

****************Thanks Obama******************
1. Anchor a death star POS at jita 4-4 undock
2. Wardec everyone
3. ???
4. Profit!!!
****************Thanks Obama******************

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Xe'Cara'eos
A Big Enough Lever
#13 - 2014-04-29 18:31:37 UTC
Sato Page wrote:

****************Thanks Obama******************
1. Anchor a death star POS at jita 4-4 undock
2. Wardec everyone
3. ???
4. Profit!!!
****************Thanks Obama******************




ugh, they still need to be anchored around moons - and certain systems (such as jita and starter systems) will be protected.
tell me how you'll anchor a stick, let alone a death star on the jita 4:4 undock?

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