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So I assume you ranted against putting pirate ships in the market for fear of dumbing down the game too? And railed against having officer mods in there? And faction ammo?

Seriously dude.

I agree with this point from a UX perspective, but they can be useful if they don't repeat, bringing attention to the fact that they are necessary. But once they don't repeat continuously, it's perfectly find to have infrequent animation -- say 3 repetitions.

Thanks for listening to my concerns over the icons vs. spreadsheet.

I'm a little surprised to see so little reaction to this blog post here.

That said, I have some feedback and questions.

1) Will it be possible to expand the window vertically to allow for more items in the grid at the bottom of the screen?

2) Please make it possible to build from POS personal hangars once you do your POS rework if such a concept still exists.

3) As said before, please ensure it's possible to differentiate between different items in the new UI using their actual names without having to hover. I should not have to guess what each

4) Since you aren't handling invention and reverse engineering during Summer what will happen to the existing S&I interface?

5) At some point are icons for existing products going to be considered for revamp? Are we ever going to get higher resolution icons or glyphs? I still have trouble with Megacyte and Noxcium at a glance.

6) Are you going to be changing the S&I icon while you're at it to bring it in line with the new look (something closer to ISIS)?

7) It would be nice to be able to right-click on a required component that is manufacturable and find its relevant blueprints in the view below.

8) It would also be nice to be able to right-click on an item in that view and select "find in assets" where it would open up the assets screen and select that as the search text. (Frankly, though, that would be good everywhere).

9) Are we going to be able to easily tell what is affected by increased costs and what isn't? Or is it possible with a -100% blueprint to actually need two input ships for a T2 blueprint?

10) How is rounding of inputs from blueprint quality going to be handled? Down, Up, Off?

11) Since we can put blueprints from the market (and possibly) other places will it be possible to adjust the ME/TE as planning tool to see it will affect the result?

12) How are profitability numbers going to be calculated?

13) The different mock-ups and code-in-progress screens have different placement for the job cost and time. Where are they going to end up?

14) Would it be possible to put the input group glyphs on top of the actual items in question in the various views that don't have them? I would love to be able to know what kind of item it is at a glance without having to look at the market. Here it would be redundant, but in the unified inventory it would be a god-send.

15) It seems somewhat counter intuitive that I was to un-fill the missing materials only to have the required materials fill completely when all pre-requisites are met. It makes a little more sense if it's always progressing towards a full circle and the center icon changes once you finally get everything you need. You already have visual input on the left as to what's missing. I'm going to want to fill the thing, not un-fill it.

16) I really like the big "START" button. More so than, what I'm guessing are WIP screenshots that have "Start production". In fact that whole bar in the visual target is much better than the one in the WIP screenshots (i.e. blueprints and installations). I'm especially concerned over the size of the buttons in the center.

Thank you for all your work on this. While I wasn't technically un-subbed, these changes are likely going to get me playing again. And for that, I'm very grateful.

That's true enough. On the other hand, since drops are already chance-based, it's not entirely inconceivable to just expand on that and make storage usage a part of the drop/destroyed calculation.

E.g. when a module is destroyed, it is [volume lost] / [total volume] chance that any given item stack was considered to be inside that module. If it was, do a standard drop/destroy die roll.

The biggest problem then rather becomes to keep track of what counts as “total volume” — specialist containers such as ship hangars should perhaps not count towards the total for standard item storage, since a XLSMA would be able to save pretty much all the blueprints in the game that way in spite of not allowing blueprints to be stored there.

CCP, thanks for the new UI and new industry rewamp in general. I areally appreciate the nice work you showed us. It is really promissing. However I have some fears about increased click/drags rather than a decrease.

You have a reasonable idea about increasing risk of loss by forcing us put blueprints in pos. I can understand that. But when we have to work with blueprints in pos we have to work with different assembly arrays and labs. If we want to work on a blueprint, all the required mats should be in the same container. Thats a very huge difference between station and a pos.

Old system;
blueprints are in station corp hangar. right click, copy, select pos lab in the same system. accept job. When job finished, warp to pos, take copies, bring them back to station and put in corp hangars respective division. right click, select invention, select pos lab, accept.
Why do I need to bring copy back to station, because I want to use all slots of my pos labs not just the one i finished the copy in.
When invention job is finished, i go to my pos, collect t2 copies, bring back to station, and start manufacturing from corp hangar.
I have to use 3 different pos arrays for manufacturing a t2 module starting from a t1 bpo.
Multiply this process with 20 different modules. Every time I go to pos, I am checking labs and taking T1/T2 copies from all pos labs, bringing them to station. So i can work from a single hangar and reach my all my pos facilities.

New system;
(based on what i understood and what I read on ccp replies to feedbacks)
I put bpo into pos lab, open new UI and start cop job. When job is finished, I take copies and have to distribute them to other pos labs. Why do i need to distribute? Because bluerpints should be present in those labs when i start invention jobs. I already distributed mats before, when i planned my monthly production cycle. Everytime a copy job finished, I have to distribute copies again. Multiply this with 20 different modules I want to produce. I have 400 copies to distribute to my labs. After lots of drag/drops I finished the task and started inventions with much faster new UI.
After 1 hour the first batch of invention jobs finished, lets assume I had %50 chance and 20 jobs available with my characters. I will have 10 t2 bpc in pos labs, I collect them and distribute them to my assembly arrays. Because bpc should present in assembly array to start the job. May be I am too lazy, wait for all 400 invention jobs finished and then collect them. Then I will have 200 t2 bpc to distribute, 10 for each item. I have to drag/drop bpc for a long time to make sure everything is in right place then I start my new UI.

The new UI is great if you are using only station. You can easily select, input/output hangar divisions, fast work very fewer clicks. If you are using pos for your industry, you have to distribute bpc/bpo to every array you want to work. You have to do it after every job is finished. You can wait for all those jobs finished but a monster total number of drags/drop trask is waiting for you. We are used to this type of task when we are distributing mats to lab and assembly arrays at the start of our production plans. I make montly plans so, I only have to stand this tidious distribution task once a month. New system forces me to do it every day if I want to continue production.

The main problem is we will not be able to start job if req mats is in a different pos array than bpc. Unified pos inventory will not be possible in any foreseeable future. Also, there is no reply if we will be able to link pos arrays. If the new system come as it is shown, more tidious tasks waiting for us.

I think they might be introducing a max runs for manufacturing on a BPO.

I vaguely remember reading something like this somewhere but there's been a lot of things posted and it gets blurry.

Quoted to emphasize the dire need of this feature. CCP, make it happen!
Dropping the ability to use a BP located at a station remotely is fine, as long as we get something to make up for the crappy array/lab design. And don't start with simply increasing storage space of those modules, it doesn't solve the core issue! As mentioned before and pointed out by others, reaction modules and silos can already be "linked". Do the same with all consuming modules, even if it requires messing with the awful POS code. Manufacturers across new eden will be thankful for eternity ;)

Again, to clarify my point:
Unifying module storage in a POS into one big pool is not possible as stated by devs in this thread. Well, not before the POS code gets completely reworked, at least.
BUT me, myself, and probably a few thousands other POS users DO want to dump all BPCs/mats/comps/stuff/datacores/decs etc. into one corp hangar and manage/start jobs from there. And honestly this is such fundamental a feature that it should have been implemented from day 1 of POS introduction ^^

Issues with removing produce from station at pos…!!!
There are some pos issues that have to be addressed before you can remove produce from station at pos.

Nr 1. In a wardec situation you have to remove all blueprints at pos = cansel jobs. Cancel jobs at labs/assembly array/reactor has to give your spent materials back and time stamp on canceled jobs must be reset during cancel not unancoring and ancoring structures like it is today. Also the time you spent up until the cancel have to be given back. If this is not possible, production will dye all together. A producer needs to be able to secure his blueprints to have a chance of making a profitable production. If production is not profitable there is no reason to do production.

Nr 2. If you remove the produce from station at pos feature. The whole idea of having a corp office dyes completely. There is absolutely no idea of spending x amount of isk a month of having a corp office if you remove that feature.

Like I have mentioned before and will mention again. CCP you need to start playing eve along with the rest of us to have any idea of what we have to deal with in the “real EVE”. It doesn’t help sitting on a protected server handing out the skills needed and testing out stuff when the “real EVE” demands a lot more. And remember to make enough isk for a plex each month for each charr.

Except the reason they have such good profit is exactly because of the short run time requiring constant logging in. T2 module invention in general has better isk/hr than T2 ammo for exactly this reason. A 'job queue' that let you schedule jobs in series would drive those profits down. It's a tough situation - a quality of life improvement would hurt margins because the margins are based upon a crappy quality of life. :)