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KasatkaKA60
Doomheim
#1 - 2014-04-28 01:53:43 UTC
Im in the market to purchase a small plot of land in Empire Space to allow me to construct a research and development facility for my project.

Does anyone know how much it can cost to purchase land on a planet?

My requirements are fairly specific.
Vulxanis Viceroy
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Khimi Harar
#2 - 2014-04-28 02:13:51 UTC
Depends on from whom, where, for what, and what kind of land you wish to buy.

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Zenariae
#3 - 2014-04-28 09:06:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Zenariae
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Aelisha
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#4 - 2014-04-28 09:24:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Aelisha
Strange dramatic derailment aside, I'd like to ask if you have your heart set on planet side or would moon-orbit real estate be acceptable?

If moon related, I have a list of available locations. Be aware of coming changes in the political aspects of anchoring in high security space (good standing with the government of the space in question will no longer be required in a month or two), and subsequent dangers that will pose to your operation as opportunistic and enterprising groups move in on such real estate.

If planet side research facilities are required, you should have carte blanche to deploy command centers on any planet that isn't in a major hub system or null-security sovereign space. The cost for a fully operational facility on a planet, last I checked was less then 20 million ISK for a fully upgraded command center and processing equipment.

If neither of these options apply, I wish you luck, but unfortunately other forms of facility deployment are outside of my experience and current operational scope.

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Andreus Ixiris
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2014-04-28 10:02:15 UTC
From the sounds of things, I suggest you buy a plot of land in western Placid. Reasonable land prices, quiet neighbours, low Federal oversight and very few people interested in either asking questions or hearing their answers.

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Claudia Osyn
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#6 - 2014-04-28 15:21:35 UTC
I have some land in Jove space I could sell you, 500 mill and it's yours. Isk up front though.

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Andreus Ixiris
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2014-04-28 15:30:33 UTC
Claudia Osyn wrote:
I have some land in Jove space I could sell you, 500 mill and it's yours. Isk up front though.

Do you also have a jump bridge to sell?

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Vulxanis Viceroy
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Khimi Harar
#8 - 2014-04-28 16:30:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Vulxanis Viceroy
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Claudia Osyn
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#9 - 2014-04-28 16:53:19 UTC  |  Edited by: Claudia Osyn
Andreus Ixiris wrote:
Claudia Osyn wrote:
I have some land in Jove space I could sell you, 500 mill and it's yours. Isk up front though.

Do you also have a jump bridge to sell?

Nope, the client is responsible for transport to and from the planet. My bridge is not for sale or rent.

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Vulxanis Viceroy
Vicarius Vitae
Khimi Harar
#10 - 2014-04-28 17:56:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Vulxanis Viceroy
For what purposes are you interested in using said land? Exempli gratia, what form of research? If that is sensitive information, feel free to contact me privately.

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Ber Kan
State War Academy
Caldari State
#11 - 2014-04-28 20:51:57 UTC
I can offer land in Venal if you wish. It will not be much, bu is still better than nothing.

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Makoto Priano
Kirkinen-Arataka Transhuman Zenith Consulting Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#12 - 2014-04-28 22:06:34 UTC
Hm. Planet-side R&D. I'm not sure CONCORD allows capsuleers to license or operate those facilities yet, so odds are you'll need to finance a baseliner shell corporation, or have it among your baseliner operations. Personally, I've operated a starbase for research and pharmaceutical production, and PRIAN also operates several dozen planet-side extraction and factory facilities in support of our ventures on cybernetics. For standard capsuleer needs, I suspect a starbase will fulfill many needs.

Failing that, you'll likely need to contact regional authorities. In Imperial space, a Holder would be the logical point of contact; in Federation space, the local government or private real estate firms may be involved; in State space, a megacorporation of choice, though most likely SuVee; in Matari space, well-- a tribal council? I'm not sure how property leasing operates in the Matari space, as I haven't operated there aside from a very brief stint in Molden Heath.

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Vulxanis Viceroy
Vicarius Vitae
Khimi Harar
#13 - 2014-04-28 22:17:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Vulxanis Viceroy
Makoto Priano wrote:
Hm. Planet-side R&D. I'm not sure CONCORD allows capsuleers to license or operate those facilities yet, so odds are you'll need to finance a baseliner shell corporation, or have it among your baseliner operations. Personally, I've operated a starbase for research and pharmaceutical production, and PRIAN also operates several dozen planet-side extraction and factory facilities in support of our ventures on cybernetics. For standard capsuleer needs, I suspect a starbase will fulfill many needs.

Failing that, you'll likely need to contact regional authorities. In Imperial space, a Holder would be the logical point of contact; in Federation space, the local government or private real estate firms may be involved; in State space, a megacorporation of choice, though most likely SuVee; in Matari space, well-- a tribal council? I'm not sure how property leasing operates in the Matari space, as I haven't operated there aside from a very brief stint in Molden Heath.


Going off of what Miss Priano is saying, unless you are or have access to someone who already owned land prior to becoming a capsuleer, you will have quite a lot of trouble acquiring the land you seek. I have significant portions of land I could offer for rent, depending on some variables. If you are interested in making such a business arrangement, feel free to contact me in private.

Now if you are interested in processing resources from a planet that would require extraction, then you would simply need to find an unused spot on a planet, rather than ask for permission.

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Leopold Caine
Stillwater Corporation
#14 - 2014-04-29 06:14:21 UTC
Why not construct it in orbit?

I can assure you first-handly it's quite more convenient.
If you really need something from the surface that badly, construct a space elevator as well.
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Pieter Tuulinen
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#15 - 2014-04-29 07:08:16 UTC
Ber Kan wrote:
I can offer land in Venal if you wish. It will not be much, bu is still better than nothing.


It might have been bombarded with energetic particles, but it's still better than nothing! It might get bombarded with energetic particles again at any moment but... Well... You get the drift.

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Corpii Herald
Doomheim
#16 - 2014-04-29 07:19:55 UTC
I'm going to assume you want a temperate planet. In that case, come to Zephan. The third planet is temperate, and I can "move" a settlement and its Khanid colonists off of it at your convenience.

For the right price, of course. I may enjoy my work but I don't do it for free.
KasatkaKA60
Doomheim
#17 - 2014-04-30 03:33:48 UTC
My apologies for my late answer but ive been swamped with data of late. Things are taking an interesting turn.

As to your suggestions, many thanks.

My research is far too delicate for starbase operations, which is why i requested a land purchase in the first place.

The research facility itself will be built in several stages, and will contain the following:

A Massive powerplant.
A research laboratory complex.
Crew and personnell facilities.

The facility itself will be the (according to the engineers ive hired) the size of a small city with the powerplant itself being half that.

Its purpose? Researching and testing new terraforming and control systems. Ive recieved MANY detailed reports on how each Empire terraforms their own planets and want to test and experiment with a few new systems to see if i can speed up the process or reduce the costs associated.

I already have a large number of highly detailed schematics, plans and blueprints required to construct the facility itself, along with a fair amount of funding to do so.

In case anybody's wondering, this IS part of the project i mentioned some time ago. But just a part of it though, im looking into other interesting stuff.
Vulxanis Viceroy
Vicarius Vitae
Khimi Harar
#18 - 2014-04-30 03:58:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Vulxanis Viceroy
KasatkaKA60 wrote:
My apologies for my late answer but ive been swamped with data of late. Things are taking an interesting turn.

As to your suggestions, many thanks.

My research is far too delicate for starbase operations, which is why i requested a land purchase in the first place.

The research facility itself will be built in several stages, and will contain the following:

A Massive powerplant.
A research laboratory complex.
Crew and personnell facilities.

The facility itself will be the (according to the engineers ive hired) the size of a small city with the powerplant itself being half that.

Its purpose? Researching and testing new terraforming and control systems. Ive recieved MANY detailed reports on how each Empire terraforms their own planets and want to test and experiment with a few new systems to see if i can speed up the process or reduce the costs associated.

I already have a large number of highly detailed schematics, plans and blueprints required to construct the facility itself, along with a fair amount of funding to do so.

In case anybody's wondering, this IS part of the project i mentioned some time ago. But just a part of it though, im looking into other interesting stuff.


Then I sincerely suggest you find a wormhole corporation to take you in, and do your tests in one or several of their systems. That will provide you privacy, and a significant amount of room for development that will not hinder nor bother others.

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Erica Dusette
Division 13
#19 - 2014-04-30 03:59:21 UTC
Why not skip the high costs and red-tape, remove politics from the equation altogether and also choose somewhere that offers the ultimate in privacy and deregulation for your experiments?

Why not choose wormhole space?

If so then sir I might have just the deal for you.

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Andreus Ixiris
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#20 - 2014-04-30 07:04:43 UTC
Erica Dusette wrote:
Why not skip the high costs and red-tape, remove politics from the equation altogether and also choose somewhere that offers the ultimate in privacy and deregulation for your experiments?

Why not choose wormhole space?

If so then sir I might have just the deal for you.

To be entirely fair, it isn't the ultimate in privacy and deregulation if you have to offer it to him...

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