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Andreus Ixiris
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#21 - 2014-04-27 12:01:49 UTC
A 24th Imperial Crusade alliance is morally bankrupt?

My surprise is utterly non-existent immeasureable!

Andreus Ixiris > A Civire without a chin is barely a Civire at all.

Pieter Tuulinen > He'd be Civirely disadvantaged, Andreus.

Andreus Ixiris > ...

Andreus Ixiris > This is why we're at war.

Desiderya
Blue Canary
Watch This
#22 - 2014-04-27 12:18:25 UTC
It's nice to be famous, I guess.

Ruthlessness is the kindness of the wise.

Veikitamo Gesakaarin
Doomheim
#23 - 2014-04-27 13:00:45 UTC
Gosakumori Noh wrote:

Not only does "Imperial Outlaws" explicitly identify itself as "outlaw," but Kuvie left the State to study cybernetics in, you know, The Empire before branching off on his own. Consequently, both the words "Imperial" and "Outlaws" make this rather a no-brainer, do they not?


Despite histrionic attempts to imply to the contrary, there does not exist any tacit approval either on my part personally, nor that of the corporation which I govern of the philosophy of either Sansha Kuvakei and his, "Nation". This however has little to do with Kuvakei or Nation but rather a business arrangement between two SCC registered companies. That one, True Slaves Foundations, may nominally prescribe to whatever Kuvakei may preach is inconsequential to me insofar that my own interests in the arrangement are met. I am more than willing to enter into business and mutually advantageous arrangements with other SCC companies so long as it does satisfy a fundamental self-interest - irrespective if they may publicly support Sansha's Nation, the Angel Cartel, the Serpentis, or whatever else.

Certainly, I am more than willing to exchange unaffiliated-neutral crews to TS-F in exchange for those I deem persons of interest, just as much as I am willing to exchange TLF contractor-crews to the relevant Imperial Administrative Authorities as part of any contractual clause I am obligated to fulfill at present with the 24th Imperial Crusade.

It is nothing more than business conducted out of self-interests. Business that I openly disclosed with relevant parties would be pursued on the part of my own company and thus requiring corporate non-aggression protocols in place should Pyre Falcon conduct and prosecute Asset Realization/Personnel Liquidation operations under the auspices of their organization on contract to the 24th Imperial Crusade.

That an corporate arrangement with TS-F I had filed as clandestine and thus made no attempts to circumvent discovery nor disavow in public if it was discovered since I considered True Slaves Foundations to be quite frankly, irrelevant and inconsequential in the grand schemes of things, would even be a matter of interest or controversy will likely only continue to cause wry amusement on my part that there do exist corporate programs and arrangements I consider of more significance and importance classified secret or covert.

An amusement equal only to watching the apparent need of others to brew storms inside their own teacups, here on the IGS.

Kurilaivonen|Concern

Gosakumori Noh
Coven of One
#24 - 2014-04-27 14:36:43 UTC
Veikitamo Gesakaarin wrote:
An amusement equal only to watching the apparent need of others to brew storms inside their own teacups, here on the IGS.


Now, now, aloof reasonableness simply will not do, darling!

I want to hear how one of PIE's little hipster pets reconciles sub-humanity with Reclaiming. I confess I haven't paid as close attention to what that organization of shallow dimwits (really, I'm not certain they are actually different people than those in Gradient... oh, tangent, never mind); and, was not aware they considered Caldari "sub-human."

It raises the possibility of an actually interesting firestorm, instead of just another "you don't say" firestorm.
Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#25 - 2014-04-27 16:05:15 UTC
Kelly Rabbit wrote:
Intelligence clearinghouse 'Skunk' has revealed Imperial Outlaws have allied with a new sort of evil, Sansha's Nation supporter alliance Shaktipat Revelators. Source.

They made a serious mistake by accepting these PYRE traitors, who were collaborating with such dangerous enemies of the State and Empire as Sansha meat drones.
I am sorry that such sort of thing comes from direction of the State, but I hope that the Inquisition will help them open eyes on what kind of snake Imperial Outlaws sheltered on their chest.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.

Pieter Tuulinen
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#26 - 2014-04-27 16:15:03 UTC
Desiderya wrote:
It's nice to be famous, I guess.


Infamous, sweetie, infamous. Guess it's private tables at the restaurant for awhile, again...

For the first time since I started the conversation, he looks me dead in the eye. In his gaze are steel jackhammers, quiet vengeance, a hundred thousand orbital bombs frozen in still life.

Desiderya
Blue Canary
Watch This
#27 - 2014-04-27 17:00:32 UTC
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Ruthlessness is the kindness of the wise.

Pieter Tuulinen
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#28 - 2014-04-27 17:12:54 UTC
Kelly Rabbit wrote:
Tiberious Thessalonia wrote:
Nothing to see here, just an expansion of our business relationship with Pyre Falcon as delineated during the previously posted thread that has come to be known as Pietergate.

I don't care what Caldari subhumans do. Imperial Outlaws were an Imperial loyalist alliance. They operated in grey areas, true, but fought for the Empress. Now, I call them haereticus.



Tell me Pieter, why didn't you decide to fly with the Praetorians? I don't know, otherPieter, can't imagine what about their attitude put me off...

For the first time since I started the conversation, he looks me dead in the eye. In his gaze are steel jackhammers, quiet vengeance, a hundred thousand orbital bombs frozen in still life.

Veikitamo Gesakaarin
Doomheim
#29 - 2014-04-28 00:40:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Veikitamo Gesakaarin
Gosakumori Noh wrote:


Now, now, aloof reasonableness simply will not do, darling!

I want to hear how one of PIE's little hipster pets reconciles sub-humanity with Reclaiming. I confess I haven't paid as close attention to what that organization of shallow dimwits (really, I'm not certain they are actually different people than those in Gradient... oh, tangent, never mind); and, was not aware they considered Caldari "sub-human."

It raises the possibility of an actually interesting firestorm, instead of just another "you don't say" firestorm.


First, I find the use of "subhuman" as pejorative to be rather passe and boring, and that its use implies a degree of ignorance and lack of intelligence unworthy of my grace and class in response.

Second, its use by someone who both fails to meet the necessary ethnic qualities to achieve a minimum standard of human intelligence and morality that is presumably Amarrian; in addition to using a last name as (assumed) taxonomical moniker of what I believe is some form of furry rodent caused far too much irony for me take seriously.

Kurilaivonen|Concern

Joyce Antura
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#30 - 2014-04-28 05:19:06 UTC
were you born into the role of a cringelord or did you merely adopt it
Agiri Falken
Akagi Initiative
#31 - 2014-04-28 05:20:41 UTC
I'm honestly curious now... How is this still dragging on as though it were news?
Katerina Tzestu
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#32 - 2014-04-28 23:50:49 UTC
While everyone is busy condemning us for a business associate of our alliance mates, I wonder why PIE feels the need to apparently spy on their friends? And of course, why they felt it proper to immediately condemn us on a public forum instead of even attempting to deal with this in a more professional fashion.
Aldrith Shutaq
Atash e Sarum Vanguard
#33 - 2014-04-29 02:45:13 UTC
Don't mind Kelly, she's still attempting to figure out the finer points of diplomatic decorum. And by that I mean she is completely incompetent at it and should not be listened to when she speaks in public in any capacity.

Aldrith Ter'neth Shutaq Newelle

Fleet Captain of the Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris

Divine Commodore of the 24th Imperial Crusade

Lord Consort of Lady Mitara Newelle, Champion of House Sarum and Holder of Damnidios Para'nashu

Gaven Lok'ri
PIE Inc.
Khimi Harar
#34 - 2014-04-29 02:51:27 UTC
The PIE Admiralty is in fact wondering the same thing, Ms. Tzestu, and has reprimanded the pilot in question for failing to contact the Admiralty with these concerns before making this thread. We are not pleased to see a PAux pilot acting as a news reporter.

That said, positive relations of any sort with Sansha affiliates are a serious problem that will have to be dealt with for cordial relations between PIE and I.LAW to continue.

I do not believe that a public forum is the place for these discussions and we will be contacting I.LAW leadership shortly about the issue.

We apologize for our pilot's indiscretion, regardless of how those discussions turn out.

Admiral of the Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris

Divine Commodore 24th Imperial Crusade

Holder. Vassal of the Emperor Family

Kelly Rabbit
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#35 - 2014-04-29 04:49:38 UTC
The information was public and available to anyone that subscribes to Skunk Intelligence Weakly. No spying was involved. ILAW has a security leak.

Better to die for the Empress than live for yourself.

Leopold Caine
Stillwater Corporation
#36 - 2014-04-29 06:23:10 UTC
So much for Pyre leaving their dirty washing behind after defecting to the Amarr... As most pilots in this thread, I am wondering why is this news?

If someone actually believed they'll be upstanding Empress' pets all of a sudden... well, your naivete is commendable I guess. Time to make better friends.
  • Leopold Caine, Domination Malakim

Angels are never far...

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Pieter Tuulinen
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#37 - 2014-04-29 07:07:08 UTC
Better friends like.... The Cartel?

For the first time since I started the conversation, he looks me dead in the eye. In his gaze are steel jackhammers, quiet vengeance, a hundred thousand orbital bombs frozen in still life.

Gaven Lok'ri
PIE Inc.
Khimi Harar
#38 - 2014-04-29 07:34:13 UTC
PIE Pilots are not spies and PIE does not spy on fellow militia corps. Kelly Rabbit has been removed from the Praetorian Auxiliary Force.

Admiral of the Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris

Divine Commodore 24th Imperial Crusade

Holder. Vassal of the Emperor Family

Tiberious Thessalonia
True Slave Foundations
#39 - 2014-04-29 11:24:01 UTC
I doubt that this is going to make any sense to anyone from this plane of existance, but..

PIE? You're welcome.
Desiderya
Blue Canary
Watch This
#40 - 2014-04-29 11:55:44 UTC
Leopold Caine wrote:
So much for Pyre leaving their dirty washing behind after defecting to the Amarr... As most pilots in this thread, I am wondering why is this news?

If someone actually believed they'll be upstanding Empress' pets all of a sudden... well, your naivete is commendable I guess. Time to make better friends.


Defecting? Really?

Ruthlessness is the kindness of the wise.