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Petition against incursion scrambling at gates.

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Salvos Rhoska
#41 - 2014-04-27 19:55:34 UTC
If this was about any other game, I would agree with you.

But in EVE, little random inconsistencies like this create content.

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James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#42 - 2014-04-27 19:57:50 UTC
Ramona McCandless wrote:
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
PVP should be able to interfere with PVE, but it really shouldn't work the other way around.


No to gate guns, CONCORD, faction police, navy?

Not trolling just putting that out there :)

None of these mechanics are similar, though. They don't penalize players in an attempt to force them into completing an objective.

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Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#43 - 2014-04-27 20:00:48 UTC
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
Ramona McCandless wrote:
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
PVP should be able to interfere with PVE, but it really shouldn't work the other way around.


No to gate guns, CONCORD, faction police, navy?

Not trolling just putting that out there :)

None of these mechanics are similar, though. They don't penalize players in an attempt to force them into completing an objective.


No I understand, thats cool, I was just going on the raw basics of the PVE not interfering with PVP comment.

But I get your meaning.

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James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#44 - 2014-04-27 20:04:28 UTC
I'm not even really sure I'd consider those PVE. Those things don't provide you with PVE objectives. They're really more like obstacles and terrain. PVE would be things like rats, missions, incursions, etc. Something you get some benefit from killing.

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Jur Tissant
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#45 - 2014-04-27 20:08:45 UTC
Sorry about the loss but that's part of going through low-sec. To avoid this you can

- check the map once/twice a day to see where incursions are
- fit warp core stabs if you're just travelling
- MWD/cloak trick

I've made it past several incursion gates in low-sec flying a hauler. MWD/cloak is tough to beat.
Kuronaga
The Dead Parrot Shoppe Inc.
The Chicken Coop
#46 - 2014-04-27 20:29:11 UTC
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Barbara Nichole
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#47 - 2014-04-27 21:05:29 UTC
I like incursions dangerous..... not less dangerous.

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Brewlar Kuvakei
Adeptio Gloriae
#48 - 2014-04-27 21:13:00 UTC
Jenn aSide wrote:
, along with other things like disabling CONCORD in incursions constellations) and decided against it when developing Incursions.



''A Sansha incursion is occurring in this sector millions are dying or being enslaved, Concord are overwhelmed, well not really, they'll still find time in their busy scheduled to slaughter you for target painting a Retriever or repping a Sansha Rat.''. Non-sense CCP automated announcement when entering a high sec incursion.
Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
#49 - 2014-04-27 23:17:02 UTC
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
PVP should be able to interfere with PVE, but it really shouldn't work the other way around.
CCP feels differently.

Entitlement complex much?
"My way of playing is superior to yours, so I get to trample on you, but your way of playing can't ever affect me".

EVE is a world. Some parts of it are even slightly alive. Deal with it.
The reason High sec remains as is with regards to concord is because otherwise incursions would be used to replicate MOO's behaviour back when concord was tankable.
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#50 - 2014-04-27 23:24:31 UTC
What they should do is extend that to highsec, not remove it from other parts of space.

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Organic Lager
Drinking Buddies
#51 - 2014-04-27 23:30:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Organic Lager
I never really understood the spawning of rats on gates at all in low sec, i mean gate guns why you no work?
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#52 - 2014-04-27 23:35:10 UTC
TL;DR:

Didn't travel fit. Lost a ship... to rats. Shame merits nerfing something.

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Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
#53 - 2014-04-27 23:36:37 UTC
Organic Lager wrote:
I never really understood the spawning of rates on gates at all in low sec, i mean gate guns why you no work?

What would be nice would be if gate guns engaged, but the sansha could tank them. So that they are much easier to kill as their reps are used up on the gate guns, so any damage will build up over time. That creates the image of gate guns being effective, while not eliminating the sansha unless players do so themselves.
Ammzi
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#54 - 2014-04-28 00:00:49 UTC
TWSinc wrote:


I find it upsetting. I may be a "crybaby" for complaining but is my thoughts understandable even a lil bit? :/





No.
Mike Azariah
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#55 - 2014-04-28 00:44:13 UTC
There are differences between incursion in the various sectors of space.

You found one of the big ones. The other being the payout multipliers.

No, I think things are working as intended.

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Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#56 - 2014-04-28 02:48:33 UTC
Mike Azariah wrote:
You found one of the big ones. The other being the payout multipliers.


And the other big one being that hisec incursion running is essentially risk-free

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Hasikan Miallok
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#57 - 2014-04-28 03:11:45 UTC
Do they actually scram or just warp disrupt ?
Destination SkillQueue
Doomheim
#58 - 2014-04-28 05:00:01 UTC
Hasikan Miallok wrote:
Do they actually scram or just warp disrupt ?

Disrupt.
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#59 - 2014-04-28 05:01:45 UTC
Destination SkillQueue wrote:
Hasikan Miallok wrote:
Do they actually scram or just warp disrupt ?

Disrupt.


Critically, this allows you to activate a Micro Jump Drive. This is rather an important distinction.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.
Thorn Galen
Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse
The Curatores Veritatis Auxiliary
#60 - 2014-04-28 10:31:22 UTC
Insert EVE easy-mode button here >*<

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