EVE General Discussion

How do you think CCP is approaching the next expansion? Given the death of one project the lukewarm reception of another and a resurgence in space combat sims competing with whatever Valkyrie will amount to. You think in an effort to entice new players and flesh out the world they might actually move away from methodically tuning the "core game" in favor of something more appealing to a general audience of gamers? Maybe announce some interesting integration with Valkyrie to set it apart from the competition?

Ambition will be to make EVE Universe, but in reality we will get another DUST (lobby shooter with chat integration. OMG! CHAT Integration!!!)
Whats what I'm fearing. Because EVE Universe is very attractive idea for me, but CCP is known for ambitious projects on paper, but poor implementation.

*eats riffled potatoe chips*
*nomnomnom*

The general audience of gamers wouldn't last long in this game
and just fill the forums with whines about ...

... how hard it is
... that the game should offer XP based on activies
... that it's unfair they can't beat older players
... that it takes ages to do anything


... and whatever else crap they'll come up with.



If CCP ever decides that we need more victims and targets, then it'll happen.

CCP Has got to be taking a long hard look at themselves right now and realizing what an invaluable IP Eve is to their existence. I just hope in an effort to maintain it they don't become stagnant simply appeasing the existing player base unwilling to move forward in hopes of drawing in a new audience with new experiences that hopefully enrich old ones.

I hope that after they are done tuning the core play, they start expanding on existing features. Adding in support for different play styles and combinations of play styles to cater for a more varied audience and allowing players to change pace when they get the mood for it.


Here's a post of mine from somewhere else to explain what I mean:

Make EVE design like space: Far, deep and wide. Which means opening it up for a variety of play styles while not impairing on each other by expanding the design and scope of all features EVE currently has (Features here mean professions like mining, exploration, FW, sovereignty, etc.). Play style could be characterized with:

• How quick you can start playing and leave: Casual, normal, hard core
• How much thought and planning you want to invest: Casual, normal hard core
• How long your playing session is: Short (10-30min), medium (1-2 h), long (3+ h)
• How experienced your character needs to be: Noob, intermediate, end game
• How many people you play with: Solo, corporation, alliance

There are probably more characteristics and magnitudes than these. Those I have given should show what I'm going for: Every Feature should support a variety of combinations of characteristics and magnitudes with individual game play choices. Every niche of game play in the feature ideally only rivals with the same type of player and not (too much) with other play styles or a play style will be pushed out of the feature, rendering the design effort obsolete.

This would greatly increase accessibility, depth and subscription duration as every player can get catered to without forcing them down a path that may conflict with their game style, thus making them quit playing. Also the variety of styles will alleviate any boredom a long term player may experience when a certain play style of a feature has been exhausted.

Depending on the validity of play styles for different features, the core substance and foundation of EVE as it is could easily be cubed with implementing permutations of existing play styles and features.

I think EVE has cultivated a very unique player base that is what makes the game itself such a unique experience. They are as essential to the games core mechanics as any of its programmed features. I just think CCP should bring in the same sort of experiences that cultivated their individual niches in the world, just new ones. And a few embellishments here and there never hurt, cosmetic things, social interactions, things of that nature. More accesible UIs for existing mechanics. New incentives.

Sorry, didnt quite realise we agreed.

I do apologise if I was rude.

I also think Planetary Interaction is some fertile ground for new experiences. Almost as if it played out like an RTS of sorts. If anything refine the mechanics and UI, not necessarily simplifying them but creating more meaningful roles for others to be involved in the process. Maybe even planetary stations like a Captain's hanger of sorts where you can more intimately manage operations on-site and the whole process doesn't seem so remote.

I'm not sure. I have seen major triumph and huge giant let downs. Ships skins...... could care less. I have seen CCP listen to the fans and ignore them, hug them and knife them, give them the gospel then turn around and lie. Now as far as content I would like to see..... that is the wonder isn't it. A giant damn structure that can do something wonderfull or maybe a megaladon size ship that eats asteroids or swallow a titan. Then again... I am just the player and my intentions may be noble or honest but this is eve online. Anarchy rules this expanse and is what makes CCP money. I could give idea's but it wouldn't matter. I don't think CCP ever has the players interests in mind. I find that they throw big parties, waste resourses, lie, drink profits, troll, and in summary waste large quantities of money. Money that can make this game shine again, but instead lets fiddle with the dps numbers, half ass, make ship skins, and the most important, slack in player retention. So really my question to your question is do you think the players will care or be excited about the next expansion?

My apologize Ms. tarpedo. By the way you look nice today.