Player Features and Ideas Discussion

The sisters of eve ships are actually not really useful( especially the stratios ant the nestor)

The Astero is a good PVP scout ship and nice to run nullsec exploration sites
The stratios... This ship is hell overpriced and not usefull in any ways: It cant use 5 heavy drones, so Ishtar is better choice, it is very slow etc...


The nestor is just crap, since it got added to eve, i just saw one or two at the jita undock, but then not anymore


So, here are some balance suggestions:


Astero

Role Bonus: 100% reduction in CPU requiement for cloaks
Role Bonus: 37.5% increase Scan Prob Strength (maybe this should be a rounder number? right now it follows the t1 bonus)
Role Bonus: +10 Virus strength for Relic and Data Analyzers
Role Bonus: 150% to small energy turret damage
Can fit Cover Ops Cloaking devices

Amarr Frigate Bonus:
10% bonus to small energy turret optimal range

Gallente Frigate Bonus:
10% bonus to drone damage hitpoints

Slot layout: 3H(+1), 4M, 3L(-1); 2 turrets, 0 launchers
Fittings: 36(+4) PWG, 200(+30) CPU
Defense (shields / armor / hull) : 960(+360) / 800(+200) / 800(+200)
Capacitor (amount) : 430
Mobility (max velocity / agility / mass / align time): 435(+120) / 2.87 / 975000 / 3.88s
Drones (bandwidth / bay): 25 / 50(-25)
Targeting (max targeting range / Scan Resolution / Max Locked targets): 37km / 620 / 6
Sensor strength: 13
Signature radius: 50(+15)
Cargo Capacity: 320(+110)


Stratios

Role Bonus: 150% bonus to Medium Energy Turret damage(was optimal range bonus)
Role Bonus: 37.5% increase Scan Prob Strength
Role Bonus: +10 Virus strength for Relic and Data Analyzers

Can fit Cover Ops Cloaking devices

Amarr Cruiser Bonus:
10% to medium energy turret optimal range(was armor resist bonus)

Gallente Cruiser Bonus:
10% bonus to Drone hitpoints and damage

Slot layout: 4H(-1), 6M(+1), 5L; 3 turrets(-1), 0 launchers
Fittings: 920 PWG, 480(+80) CPU
Defense (shields / armor / hull) : 3500(+1550) / 3000(+600) / 3000(+550)
Capacitor (amount) : 1920
Mobility (max velocity / agility / mass / align time): 254(+72) / .47 / 9350000 / 6.09s
Drones (bandwidth / bay): 125(+25) / 400
Targeting (max targeting range / Scan Resolution / Max Locked targets): 55km / 275 / 7
Sensor strength: 20
Signature radius: 195(+45)
Cargo Capacity: 550

NESTOR

Amarr Battleship Bonuses:
10% to large energy turret optimal range(was armor resist bonus)

Gallente Battleship Bonuses:
10% drone damage and hitpoints per level

Role bonuses:
150% bonus to large energy turret damage(Was RR rangebonus)
37.5% bonus to drone optimal range and tracking of drones(was RR effectbonus)
50% increased strength for scan probes
+10 virus strength for relic and data analyzers

Slot layout: 5H(-2), 8M(+2), 6L; 4(-1) turrets, 0 launchers
Fittings: 14250(+3000) PWG, 700(+20) CPU
Defense (shields / armor / hull): 13000(+4100) / 12000(+2050) / 12000(+2100)
Capacitor (amount / recharge rate / cap/s) : 10000(+3800) / 1000(-44) / 10(?)
Mobility (max velocity / agility / mass / align time): 144(+52) / .09 / 112000000(+56000000) / 13.97
Drones (bandwidth / bay): 125 / 400(-100)
Targeting (max targeting range / Scan Resolution / Max Locked targets): 75km / 115 / 7
Sensor strength: 24 Magnetometric
Signature radius: 520(+55)
Cargo Capacity: 800(+100)

So, you may have some questions:

Why make these ships to shieldtankers?
Because the ships become huge damage dealers. To keep damage balanced, i decided to add mid slots instead of low power slots. Otherwhise you can fit lows full with DDas and heat sinks and reaching insane dps.

What else did i change:

- added the missing rolebonus to the astero
- replaced the armor resist bonuses to energy turret optimal range bonus
- replaced the RR bonuses on the Nestor to a dronedamage application bonus and removed the 2nd RR bonus, because this ship dont has enought cap to handle 2 RRs togheter with 5 lasers and some tank
- reduced the dronebay of the nestor to 400(like evry other dronesship) and added 100 cargobay
- massive speed and HP buffs the astero is almost as fast as an interceptor, the stratios has typically destroyer speed and the nestor is as fast as a BC.
- increased the signatureradius to compensate the massive speed and hp buffs
- added some fitting
- the Nestor got just some other massive buffs


I hope, that i have solved the problems with these ships, because they are just massively overpriced and have just a low price/power ratio, even the new drone nexus chips didnt change anything.


That are just suggestions to make these ships more useful for their extreme high price.

Let me know, what you think.

So you want covert ships that can out DPS their non-cloaky T2 counterparts? Err.... no?

bump

The Astero and the Stratios are fine as they are right now and they most certainly fit into the current pirate faction changes.

The Nestor may need another look at her identity but she is the most mobile battleship out there.

Im not happy with all of the changes, because you are making these ships just massively OP.

But i am happy to give the stratios the aillity, to launch 5 heavy drones and to add a rolebonus to the astero.

But i am not happy to increase hp or just massively buff theyr mobility.

And the Nestor is not the most mobile baattleship, Machariel and Vindicator have a better mobility.

The Ishtar can use five heavies/sentries. The Ishtar cannot covops cloak. The Ishtar cannot use covops bridges.

The Stratios cannot use five heavies/sentries. The Stratios can covops cloak. The Stratios can use covops bridges.

Well, I fly primarily missile boats.. and none of the SoE ships have missile slots or missile bonii... so i'm hoping they will introduce variants with missile-based weps

The Astero seems pretty ok to me...

I haven't flown the Stratios yet due to costs... but I tell you what: If they'd add one mid slot and add missile launchers, I'd be all over that

I do love that they have introduced some pretty cool ships in the last couple years.. the Gnosis and the SoE ships are great additions. Like I said.. I just wish they'd offer some missile variants .. or do like the Gnosis and have equal representation of the diff weps systems ...

just my two cents

Astero and Stratios are already extremely powerful ships for their given roles. They don't need changing at all.

Nestor is horrible though. And I do agree it needs changes, but it doesn't need to become a Dominix on steroids. Try again.