EVE General Discussion

to be honest, crying is your thing.

usually because you keep posting stupid things. which people keep having to correct, which seems to really upset you.

Notice how nobody in this thread has brought up the fact that the game provides tons of intelligence on k-space systems, such as the number of ships killed, number of active cynos, whether a cyno array is active in the system, number of NPCs killed, jumps in the last hour, jumps in the last 24 hours, activity indices that can indicate how much mining and anomaly running takes place, pilots in space in the last 30 minutes, number of docked pilots - and none of that data requires a player to even undock from a system across the galaxy.

But local is the problem, not the other forms of free intel that benefit me because my targets should be deafblind sheep to my wolf

Part of having autonomy in Sov, is responsibility for defending it.
That SHOULD include having to do your own intel and system reconnaisance.

Automated mail systems and a universal Local make sense in NPC space, but not in sectors where Sov is held by players.

Whining that you should have Local in Null, is no different than highseccers whining for faster Concord intervention.
Both are based on automatic and essentially NPC based effects.

Stop crying for and trying to defend an automated system making Sov even easier

The tables are turning. Null will receive its deserved higher nominal profitability.
Thereafter, its time to start adjusting, and in particular, removing NPC based and automated systems from Null and relegating them instead to player action.

You cant argue for wanting player autonomous systems on hand, but then tryi g to defend having automated non-players systems on the otherhand.

Its a fallacious hypocrisy and the worst kind of Null pedantry, when they try to lecture High on its "advantages" and lack of risk, but then hedgedly want the same privileges for their own more profitable systems.

No.

Patrol and probe your own space. If you want automated and NPC systems, then move back to those sectors that are under them.

And these arguments of "if this is changed, we will steamroll the rest of Null with it" only carry so much weight.
Its a convenient argument, and surely often true, but be careful how often you throw it around without just cause.

Somthing has to change in Null and Sov mechanics, and more likeky than not, it will be something that inconveniences its current hegemounous overlords. That is predictable, why? Because the current system of Null/Sov is exactly the one that allowed this abomination of a doughnut to come to exist in the first place.

No, I'm saying that wormholes don't have local because it's a tradeoff to prevent what would be insanely easymode gameplay. Local would be ridiculously overpowered in a wormhole compared to anywhere else in the game.

*sips blood orange juice*

Well said.

There are gameplay reason why some things exist the way they do. Remove those things without a good gameplay reason (and no, 'it doesn't make sense in the lore' is not a gameplay reason) and you invite bad things to happen.

Some people fall so in love with their own ideas that they don't properly criticize them like they should. Then when people tell them 'this is a bad idea'. they 1st get defensive then go on to accuse the more clear thinking people of having some kind of agenda.

Well, personally, i do have an agenda, i want the game I play (the WHOLE game) to not suck. Removing local in null is about as stupid idea as removing lvl4s from high sec.

. Of course, as with nulll local, lvl 4s in high sec make no sense rational sense. How do non-capsuleer pirates get MILLIONS of battleships into the same high sec that spawns magical space police to blap capsuleers who shoot at other capsuleers? Why doesn't CONCORD blap all those pirate npc battleships?

Because the game needs it to be the way it is, that's why.

The game does not want, or need, for the Null situation to be as it is.

How do YOU propose to fix Null and Sovs mechanics?
You answered when I asked another poster, but you did not answer the actual question.
You merely elaborated on how a solution should be created, whihc I agree with, but the false implication that you made, that this spexidic proposal has not been considered, was false and wrong. It has.

So, what are YOUR specific suggestions?

No it's not. It's not even an alleyway leading to any of those avenues. Changing local will have zero effect on the status quo and it'll only affect how much people actually play in 0.0 outside of bloc-level warfare.

Remove local everywhere!

Contrdictory.

You state it will not affect the status quo, yet immedistely thereafter make an observation of how, indeed, it will affect it.

What are YOUR suggestions to fixing Null and Sov then?
Be as specific as possible please.