EVE General Discussion

Please link proof of NPCs paying bills please/thanks.

Local exists as a playability function outside of the lore. The reason we have local everywhere except wormholes is because the mechanics of EVE online allows for opposing players to meet quickly (a target is just seconds away via warp) and because EVe Onlines main mode of player travel are these artificial choke points called gates. There is also the fast travel option known as jump bridges (delivered via cyno).

Without local in space that has easy access (gates/cynos) and stealth mechanics (cloaks), the balance shifts towards the aggressor way to much to have a balanced game. no one in their right minds would use gate/cyno connected space with no local .

Wormholes work with no local because of the increase difficulty of entering and leaving the space. Other than getting podded, the onyl way out of a wormhole is via probing (some has to probe the exit, even if it's not you) and THE only way in in the 1st place is to use probes, which is a lot slower than just clicking a gate icon and warping.

Even with the increase time/effort it takes to find entracnes and exits to wormholes, wormhole space STLL the most dangerous (per capita) place in EVE while being the least populated.

No local (or only "paid for SOV local) in null (unless you change the way gates, cynos, warping, D-scan and cloaks work ie re-write the whole game) would be a disaster. And not just for null, but for the rest of EVE as Null is the destruction engine that keeps null working as well as the source of most deadspace mods/ships that high sec relies on for PVE activities..




TL;DR We've been over this time and time again in F&I and the in game situation hasn't changed, there is just to much you'd have to do to EVE 1st to make no local in null work without screwing up so much other stuff.

I Love these threads for the pure fear it instills in the nullbear renter community.

In fact I would hazard a guess that most of the replies berating or insulting the OP are said bears quaking in their boots that their safe little nullsec bubble might burst XD.

It DOES make perfect sense with the current 'scare' of nerfing hi-sec.
Imagine a far more profitable, but far more dangerous null.

...but seriously if this did happen, how it would decimate the nullsec renter alliances - lol.

Surely a massive cut in the profits of CFC, Tangra etc - and that capsuleers, is why (unfiotunately) it will never happen.

Look at the Nullbears crying.

My god, its disgusting.

That's why you always end up in flame wars, because you aren't interested in the truth of a matter (or other people's opinions on those matters). I for one explained to you why what you want to think is wrong. CCP has been explaining it for 10 years by not changing it lol.

Never mind him, he just assumes everything is tears so he has fap material for later.

Oh my golly gosh.

This post essentially says "If you don't agree with what I am saying, then you are categorically wrong, proven by the fact that you disagree with me."

And there's loads of rational reasons null should have local. In fact, the reason you think it shouldn't have it is an irrational reason, because the reason you think it shouldn't have it is because you hate null players. If it were removed entirely, it would empty null out in a day since power projection would make it suicide to do anything serious in null, so we'd all move to low sec and kick all of those guys out. If it were "pay to use", we'd just pay and smaller groups would get even more crushed.

And i don;t think anyone cares if you want to voice your opinions about us ebil nullbears. You realise nobody takes you seriously right? You are just "one of those forum trolls" at this point.

Hard to do since I spend much of my time in high sec lol.

While you might try to dismiss the realites I meantion, it doesn't change the fact that a null with gates and cynos but no local would be (game play wise) unworkable. It's why wormholes are the way they are.



This is prejudice and emotion clouding judgment. No one is against good change. A no local environment DONE CORRECTLY can be a good (very very Good) thing and wormholes partially prove that (i say partially because wormholes are still low population zones, local enables people to survive in low and null which is why there are more people in low and null).

But the "just get rid of local" (and change nothing else) thing is stupid.

Local is an integral part of 'K' space design and things would have to be redesigned for the removal of local to not be game breaking. You can't apply a simple fix to a complex intertwined system and expect there to not be numerous negative unintended consequences.

It's a very good thing that you aren't in charge of game design.

+1

lived in CFC null for 3+ years and **** is boring as ****.

remove local

>NOT A TROLL<

You really are a melodramatic screwball. You're an even bigger whiner than the OP...