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What if CCP eliminated PLEX?
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Hevymetal
POT Corp
#1 - 2014-04-23 12:27:26 UTC
Not that I am advocating it, because I am not. But what if CCP said "Enough" we have RMT under control, we need more influx of cash and we are tired of dealing with the additional hassles that PLEX create.

No more playing without paying. AUR, resculpting and transfers are only availanle through cash payments.

What would the ramifications be?

Other then forum threadnaughts and an initial decrease in the active players.

Would CCP actually make more money in the end? Would the playerbase be reduced by 20% or more? How would it effect you?
Solecist Project
#2 - 2014-04-23 12:27:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Solecist Project
Not possible.

Yes, that's my response.
They simply can't get rid of it,
because it's too tied into the game.

And yes, they'd lose quite a few subs,
but not all of them would be a loss.

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia
Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
#3 - 2014-04-23 12:28:13 UTC
Every PLEX is paid for. CCP is not losing money from PLEXes, quite the opposite.

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Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#4 - 2014-04-23 12:28:18 UTC
In before lock.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.
Lucas Kell
Solitude Trading
S.N.O.T.
#5 - 2014-04-23 12:33:18 UTC
Abrazzar wrote:
Every PLEX is paid for. CCP is not losing money from PLEXes, quite the opposite.
This.

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KnowUsByTheDead
Sunlight...Through The Blight.
#6 - 2014-04-23 12:34:50 UTC
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
In before lock.


Not empty quoting.

Once you realize what a joke everything is, being the comedian is the only thing that makes sense.
Zenos Ebeth
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#7 - 2014-04-23 12:34:50 UTC
Abrazzar wrote:
Every PLEX is paid for. CCP is not losing money from PLEXes, quite the opposite.


This , also since 1 plex is more expensive than 1 month sub CCP are making more money off people who pay with plex ( indirectly ) then those who have a sub.

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Anne Dieu-le-veut
Natl Assn for the Advancement of Criminal People
#8 - 2014-04-23 12:35:34 UTC
Not sure if serious. I hope not...
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#9 - 2014-04-23 12:35:59 UTC
Hevymetal wrote:
But what if CCP said "Enough" we have RMT under control, we need more influx of cash and we are tired of dealing with the additional hassles that PLEX create.
RMT, almost by definition, is never under control.
PLEX does not reduce the influx of cash.
The hassles only bother accountants, and no-one cares about them.

Quote:
No more playing without paying. AUR, resculpting and transfers are only availanle through cash payments.
What would the ramifications be?
CCP makes less money; people quit because they have to grind, so CCP makes even less money; RMT, with all the problems it creates, increases so CCP makes less money. Also, the velocity of ISK slows down significantly and the market becomes inefficient.

It would have a huge amount of negative effects and no positive ones.
Solecist Project
#10 - 2014-04-23 12:38:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Solecist Project
Lucas Kell wrote:
Abrazzar wrote:
Every PLEX is paid for. CCP is not losing money from PLEXes, quite the opposite.
This.

Seeing your signature...

I think I once ganked an alt of the guy who runs bulk trade.
He had the same letters and numbers like him,
but I don't recall it anymore.

I ganked his frig or noobship and his pod,
because he was afk at the gate.

Let me tell you, that guy is nuts. He didn't actually lose anything of value,
but he got so butthurt as if I had entered his house and stole
the virginity of his barely legal daughter.

I've heard a lot about this guy and the summary pretty much is
that he's a douche, ****, dork, donk and doofus.

I'm glad there are alternatives like yours.

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia
Hevymetal
POT Corp
#11 - 2014-04-23 12:38:44 UTC
Zenos Ebeth wrote:
Abrazzar wrote:
Every PLEX is paid for. CCP is not losing money from PLEXes, quite the opposite.


This , also since 1 plex is more expensive than 1 month sub CCP are making more money off people who pay with plex ( indirectly ) then those who have a sub.


I agree entirely, the question was asked of me and it made me ponder a response (My response was they make more off of PLEXs, they wouldn't get rid of them) and he asked again "What if they did?". That is why I asked it here, to see how other would have responded.
Gregor Parud
Imperial Academy
#12 - 2014-04-23 12:39:36 UTC
Hevymetal wrote:
Not that I am advocating it, because I am not. But what if CCP said "Enough" we have RMT under control, we need more influx of cash and we are tired of dealing with the additional hassles that PLEX create.

No more playing without paying. AUR, resculpting and transfers are only availanle through cash payments.

What would the ramifications be?

Other then forum threadnaughts and an initial decrease in the active players.

Would CCP actually make more money in the end? Would the playerbase be reduced by 20% or more? How would it effect you?


You obviously don't have the faintest idea on how plex works.
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#13 - 2014-04-23 12:40:11 UTC
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
In before lock.


Why did the OP like this post? Seriously.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.
TigerXtrm
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#14 - 2014-04-23 12:45:48 UTC
CCP needs to eliminate PLEX, it's a stupid useless item that can be easily replaced with the already existing Aurum system. Buy gametime with Aurum tokens instead of a specific PLEX item.

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Hevymetal
POT Corp
#15 - 2014-04-23 12:47:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Hevymetal
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
In before lock.


Why did the OP like this post? Seriously.


Cause it made me chuckle.

I posted a legitimate question to see how others would have answered and maybe be enlightened myself about some facet of the whole PLEX model i may have been unaware of.

It made me laugh at the fact you took the time and effort to actually post in the thread, but posted nothing constructtiive, other then the fact you increased your post count by 1 you accomplished nothing.

EDIT Oh yeah I liked your above post as well cause of the same reasons.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#16 - 2014-04-23 12:47:30 UTC
TigerXtrm wrote:
CCP needs to eliminate PLEX, it's a stupid useless item that can be easily replaced with the already existing Aurum system. Buy gametime with Aurum tokens instead of a specific PLEX item.

You got the two backwards.
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#17 - 2014-04-23 12:49:02 UTC
Hevymetal wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
In before lock.


Why did the OP like this post? Seriously.


Cause it made me chuckle.

I posted a legitimate question to see how others would have answered and maybe be enlightened myself about some facet of the whole PLEX model i may have been unaware of.

It made me laugh at the fact you took the time and effort to actually post in the thread, but posted nothing constructtiive, other then the fact you increased your post count by 1 you accomplished nothing.

EDIT Oh yeah I liked your above post as well cause of the same reasons.


Ah, see, I just assumed you were trolling. This thread seemed like pretty obvious flamebait.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.
Hevymetal
POT Corp
#18 - 2014-04-23 12:52:52 UTC
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Hevymetal wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
In before lock.


Why did the OP like this post? Seriously.


Cause it made me chuckle.

I posted a legitimate question to see how others would have answered and maybe be enlightened myself about some facet of the whole PLEX model i may have been unaware of.

It made me laugh at the fact you took the time and effort to actually post in the thread, but posted nothing constructtiive, other then the fact you increased your post count by 1 you accomplished nothing.

EDIT Oh yeah I liked your above post as well cause of the same reasons.


Ah, see, I just assumed you were trolling. This thread seemed like pretty obvious flamebait.


Not at all. Some of the threads I make are to get other opinions and attempt to gleen some knowledge about things I may not be up to speed on. I avoid trolling, im an adult with too many others things to do, the novelty of that wore off 20 years ago.
TigerXtrm
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#19 - 2014-04-23 12:53:55 UTC
Tippia wrote:
TigerXtrm wrote:
CCP needs to eliminate PLEX, it's a stupid useless item that can be easily replaced with the already existing Aurum system. Buy gametime with Aurum tokens instead of a specific PLEX item.

You got the two backwards.


Not really. Both are currencies at the moment. Except an Aurum token is the equivalent of a one dollar bill and a PLEX is the equivelant of a 20 dollar bill. You can't pay for items that cost a few bucks (like the new ship skins) with a PLEX because there's no such thing as change. But you can pay for gametime with 20 Aurum tokens. If either one has to go, it obviously needs to be the one with bigger value as to facilitate micro transactions.

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Sunlight...Through The Blight.
#20 - 2014-04-23 12:54:38 UTC
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Hevymetal wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
In before lock.


Why did the OP like this post? Seriously.


Cause it made me chuckle.

I posted a legitimate question to see how others would have answered and maybe be enlightened myself about some facet of the whole PLEX model i may have been unaware of.

It made me laugh at the fact you took the time and effort to actually post in the thread, but posted nothing constructtiive, other then the fact you increased your post count by 1 you accomplished nothing.

EDIT Oh yeah I liked your above post as well cause of the same reasons.


Ah, see, I just assumed you were trolling. This thread seemed like pretty obvious flamebait.


I wasn't assuming you were trolling, OP

Post count. You were right.

vOv

Or could it be that this thread has been ripped apart a thousand different times, in a thousand different threads.

Is Dead being serious or nihilistic?

Shocked

We may never know.


Once you realize what a joke everything is, being the comedian is the only thing that makes sense.
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