Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Having used Siphon units for the past few weeks I've found them to be fairly entertaining and serving a purpose barely. Is CCP going to make changes to the units when they introduce medium and large or has this project just been left to redundancy?

The units themselves can be be totally safeguarded against via clever pos management. A pos manager farming high end moon material can set up cheap reactions on his pos safeguarding his moon goo from the siphon. CCP will have to allow Siphon users the ability to choose what material their siphon targets to keep them relevant. Having different types of Siphons that steal different stages could be an easy work around for this ie a siphon that only steals moon materials, one that only steals finished products ect. ect.

The Siphons also need more defence either greater HP such as a POS currently has and possibly need a reinforcement time such as a pos or mobile depot. The Siphon costs are also on the high side with a unit only paying for itself after 24 hours on an average moon. Its simply a coin flip currently dropping 1bn isk worth of siphons will either lose you 1 billion if caught, break even or could make upwards of 1-2 billion daily if left unmolested which currently is not likely.

As of current the siphon needs a massive buff with all the advantage being with the pos owner. CCP you will need to buff them when you introduce the larger variants or they will simply remain a pointless market item.

One idea would be for the units to cloak unless a ship comes within activation range this would force pos owners to look for them or watch them being looted. These cloaking units could have a higher price than normal units.

TL;DR

We need Siphon unit that targets moon materials to avoid current exploit. Dev clarification on time frame of implementation most welcome.

That post says nothing, we need siphon units that target raw materials so POS owners can't protect moon goo with worthless reactions. There is no point in CCP introducing broken content, the last patches have all been about fixing content so why have they now introduced broken siphon units?

Exactly CCP made them to stimulate null alliances realising it was far to easy to maintain ISK farms once established, these units when fully developed will cause this to occur. In their current form they can be ignored via reaction exploit and they are still far to easy to detect and remove to cause any stimulation in the protection of moon goo POS.

Well only time will tell if CCP intends for Siphon units to be content or if they should just be placed inside a station container alongside my Anaconda mines. The null bear rage when they get the new siphon units working is gonna be epic. :) Look forward to reading the first dev post here.

Daddy needs a new siphon unit, moon goo only please :)

And yet meanwhile I hear the siphon is all against the POS as every hour it just noms some of the material and spits it out into little Interbus packages that stack up outside the CQ door

That unless they log in every hour just before the cycle and enough to clear all the siphons, they arbitrarily lose the material, then still have to loot the siphon to get some back

So why not reinforce the moon and claim it for yourself if you want the goo and not the sweet delicious null baby tears

Because a pos is for moon goo and a siphon is for tears
Please understand the usage

I don't think large alliances are the target group for this feature.

I'll give you a hint... you may have already answered your own question given CCP's very obvious history in some areas of content.

Personally, I hope they introduce a siphon that can steal from complex reactors.

I agree with OP.

*Snip* Removed reply to an edited out part of the quoted post. ISD Ezwal.


What an amazingly stupid suggestion.