EVE General Discussion

I am writing this cause I have been seeing and reading allot of posts on why people wont leave High Sec or how to get people to move to low and null sec.

I would like to start out by saying I am in no way an experienced EvE player at really any part. My little over a year experience has largely consisted of me staying in training ques with whatever character I am playing at the time. Trying the little things around high sec such as mining mission running or ninja salvaging on one character. I prolly have played around on the character auction house as much as I have played the game. Mostly to try out different ships and hey I have a little extra money to spend why not get some plexes and play around with some different types of pilots.

One thing I have noticed is that whenever I have got up the courage to venture into Low Sec. It has always ended up with me paying the ultimate price, aka my ship being trashed and me getting sent back to high sec via the podded highway. Now I have never been against going to low sec or null sec if that option came to me. But I cant help to notice that the game doesnt prepare pilots at all to leave High Sec. Also most corps or alliances dont want to bother with people that have no experience. I strongly feel that this leaves people like me stuck in high sec even though with a little guidance from a vet or a corp to take us under their wing we could possibly turn into a great asset for them. Which also brings up the second part of this problem I am seeing. Which is how can you trust anyone in this game, if you dont know them IRL or have played other games with them in the past? Cause people like me seem to always hear about stories of corporations that recruited a guy just to blow him up once he started to get in with them just to grief the poor guy.

I really think that if you the community want to have more people out there in those places. You might have to take the burdon on yourselves to bring more people into your groups. Take noobs under your wings. Teach them how to properly pvp fit and make money out there. Yes CCP can change mechanics. But I believe that if some of the changes that low sec and null sec people put forward such as making high sec non profitable. It would have the opposite effect and just drive me away from the game. I cant say this would work for all high sec players. But I can say from my point of view this would at least help people like me that are stuck in high sec.

Personally I would love to be a low sec/null sec player. Just EvE seems to be a cold universe which friends cant be found. And without friends people like me dont stand a chance out there.

Well your character has been around for about a year so I'm surprised you haven't heard of the many options to get you PVP'ing, and hence into lowsec and nullsec. In highsec you should talk to one of the Red vs. Blue corps or Eve University just to get started. Then you can start making contacts with entities outside highsec; there are plenty who will take a low SP character if they show willingness to learn.

My my, since when was a mere 3 paragraphs too long to read? You clearly took the time to type out this post instead....

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Back on topic: I kind of agree with the OP. I disagree with most forum warriors on these boards. I think many high sec players would love to enter nullsec/lowsec (based on my own experience from recruiting for null/lowsec corps also) but lack the foundation or connections to do so.

I hope you never take an IQ test because the result would be in single digits.

Honestly you have to really try to get podkilled in lowsec. It's already pretty much impossible. The only way to get consistently podkilled is if you're playing in a system that allows warp disruption fields.

It is 100% the player's fault. The player's fault for not being adventurous and learning how to do it :D Within a week or two of starting I had joined a small nulsec corporation and was out in nulsec. Now not everyone has to do it like that but that just shows you how easy it is if you just dont be a scaredy!

Yes some corporations might explode you, so? Do it anyways! Learn and do it. This is a game and infinitely more simple than most things in RL. Why are people scared in a game o_O

its not an auction house - please pay wow

Funny, I have several low sec moon mining ops and don't have much trouble. Talk to the locals, pay your rent, and you won't have trouble. Of course you can "go it alone" and tell everyone to f off and good luck with that, it's 40,000 players against, well, you.

i have been in a high sec, new player friendly corp for a couple of years now. we repeatedly hear the same complaint, with real time training NO new player can skill up to the level of the people planning to grief them. solo players and small (a few friends that play) corps dont usually have the resources to replace ships and gear lost to gate ganks. As a result, they stay in high sec space,

our corp is all but gone now. the same missions get old after a while (even when run with lower tier ships for amusement)
mining is bot ridden and just tediious
PI is now a waste of effort and expense for small players in high sec.
So if you arent having fun in high sec you MUST find some friends in low, null, wh to hook up with, otherwise you will find yourself wondering why you are paying to do so little that is fun anymore. or you will just leave.

I dont know why there should even be a need to go to low/null sec. I mean, space is huge and Eve has tens of thousands of active gamers. Its a great thing that there are different options to experience the game.

Anyone trying to enforce a certain playstyle on others (and this also goes to the Developers) is actually hurting the game. If I were forced to move to low/null sec by gameplay changes or community behaviour (if I dont personally like to do that) now, I would rather quit the game than give in. There are things in Eve I have fun with and they contribute to the overall experience of all players, be it by providing stuff for the market or simply being a possible gank target in some remote system. Personally I 100% believe in the fact that Eve is the better game, because I and every other player can choose from LOTS of things what to do next, and not only by going to low/null sec as the next best or most rewarding thing.