Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Just a few suggestions.

Shouldn't the tech 2 drone boat have the Dominix hull instead of the Megathron hull?

Also I'd steer clear from adding addition drones per level. As evident from the Gurista changes CCP is trying to reduce the amount of drones on field, not increase them. Perhaps a 20% increase in drone damage per level instead?

I'm not a fan of both Minmatar ships having specializations in projectile turrets. What if you gave the amarr missile ship to minmatar? Then give the second T2 Amarr BS a bonus to raw laser damage or drones.

Really well thought out post btw!

the Gallapagos isnt a Creodrom dominix, because it is already used as the Sin (Black Ops). Otherwhise we would have two times the exactly same ship for two different classes. I know, the mega is already used as the Kronos, but it has different textures. But the Mega as dronecarrier would be great i think, because it has a visible dronehangar.


CCP changes that only on the guristas ships. I know, they are going to give the supercarriers just 10 fighters instead of 20 (without drone control units), but in hi-sec, there are still a lot of ships, that can launch 5 drones. As i can read in the rebalance thread, not all peoples are fan of that change, because medium and small drones wont get affected anymore. We may see some more Nestors(when the prices fall to a buyable level) and dominixes in Mission hubs.


I made both minmatar assault battleship specialized to projectile turrets, because theyr cruiser and frig counterparts are specialized to projectile turrets aswell and the Amarr dont have a missile batleship. The Minmatar already have two missile battleships, the typhoon and the typhoon fleet issue. I made the stats similar to the assault cruisers and assault frigs (for example giving the maverick two times a 10% to optimal range, like a giant Eagle/Harpy or make the Oblivion to a large projectile brawler, like a giant Vagabond/Wolf). But the idea to make one of the amarr assault battleships to a dronebattleship sound great. Maybe missiles as primary weapon and drones as secondary weapon (gets then a dronetracking/range bonus instead of a damage bonus).

Generally agree with idea.
With one excepption - we ahve enough ex-Tier 1 and 2 hulls. Those new ships must be ex-tier 3 hulls only :)

I agree with this Idea, +1

I really dont know, why there isnt a t2 battleship line for fast attacks.
I hope, that CCP is reading this thread aswell

While I like the idea of some kind of assault-battleship, the following doesn't make sense at all..

Even with normal sig that bonus wouldn't make sense for a BS. Imho an AB bonus would be better..

+1 also from me, i find, that we really need something like that


Good Idea

I made a little change to the albatros, as the geckos got added to the game, i increased the dronebandwith to 250mbit, so that it can launch 5 geckos.

Full T2 resists on a BS hull.

That would be what, anywhere between 200-300k EHP easily?

Won't even have to compromise much while fitting that in order to bricktank the hell out of it.

Also, the name implies to me a focus on speed, probably a heavy focus on MWDs.

With all these strengths accounted for, what would be their weaknesses?

They're battleships. they're never going to have good manoeuvrability. The MJD bonus a marauder get is as close as you're likley to get to a manoeuvrable T2 battleship. Failing that, get a machariel.

Is cap management not an intended weakness? Ships DO tend to have those. What's the weakness of yours?

Again, bastion mode needs a drawback. You can't move while in siege or triage either, but people use those all the time.

And again, they have massive EHP already, why would they need T2 resists?


What niche do these ships fill, and how do you avoid stepping on the toes of marauders and pirate BS with them? Or even T1 BS?

What kind of DPS and EHP are you aiming for with these things, assuming basic t2 fittings?

They have full T2 resists, but relative low raw hp (around 30% more than combat battlecruisers, but still lower than normal battleships. They also have higher signatureradius compared to t1 battleships, that these ships dont get too high speed tanks. They also have a higher mass, so that MWDs and afterburners dont give the full bonus. I know, the oblivion and ganesha are faster than a machariel, but with the higher mass, theyr mwd speed is still lower than a machariel (I dont know the formula for the speed bonuses on afterburners, if the mass is higher than the thrust of them).

Another weakness is that, that they have just 50/50 dronebays (except the gallapagos, wich is a dronebased ship) to ensure, that these ships are not too strong against small stuff.

And some is not listed in the thread, these ships all have 500s cap recharge time, but low cap capacity. They still gain around 50-70 cap/sec with all skills trained at 5 and no cap modules fitted, but with the low cap capacity, they can easly get neuted out.