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Forum trolling is still out of hand; hurting player-to-dev interaction

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La Nariz
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#41 - 2014-04-18 02:34:18 UTC
Solecist Project wrote:
La Nariz wrote:
Brandy Orion wrote:
30 likes spread through here; I wonder how many were alts of forum alts that posted in this thread. Big smile

FYI I'm not reading the responses to this thread for obvious reasons, however I do implore you folk to keep proving my point if you'd be so kind. How would I know you're proving my point, you might ask? You're that obvious.


I wonder how much better our forums would be if npc corp members like yourself were prevented from posting in GD.

Agreed.

Oh wait.

Crap. :(


1 man corp, like the one I use when pubbies get very upset with my awoxing and start sending mails to CEOs. Its hilarious the stuff they send.

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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#42 - 2014-04-18 02:36:46 UTC
KnowUsByTheDead wrote:

Are you referring to Poster "s".....Poster "d".......and Poster "ls"?

I agree.

Have a like.

They seem to matter now.

Roll

You forgot the poster soon to be formerly known as iz.

Have a like, I'll log in my other characters to like you some more Twisted

In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.

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Solecist Project
#43 - 2014-04-18 02:37:01 UTC
KnowUsByTheDead wrote:
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
Lady Areola Fappington wrote:
Wow, I've found someone who thinks "likes" actually matter.

To make the thread actually useful, I found these "BlueBerry Cobbler" cookies at the store yesterday. Made by Pepperidge Farm. They're freaking delicious, if you like blueberry.
If we wanted likes we'd post in The Likes & Get Likes thread, and nowhere else.

I do agree that certain posters are poisonous, they're just not the ones that the OP thinks they are.

Obligatory popcorn gif


Are you referring to Poster "s".....Poster "d".......and Poster "ls"?

I agree.

Have a like.

They seem to matter now.

Roll

Positive reinforcement or so.

Good thing!

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia

Kabeerah Kebab
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#44 - 2014-04-18 02:39:16 UTC
Brandy Orion wrote:
This thread was created some time ago and received and pretty hefty amount of responses and likes from the community
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4198527#post4198527

Since this post, it is unfortunate to see that the trolling on the EVE-O forums has only gotten worse and more unchecked. I don't want to make this long so I'll get right to the points:

- The trolling on EVE-O forums is getting worse and has been for some time.
- Most players who attempt to discuss an idea or thought on the forums are berated, trolled and insulted for their efforts.
- Most of these players then leave the forums after a few posts due to the trolling, insults and/or lack of help they recieved.
- The majority of the playerbase is not represented on the forums as a result of this.
- The majority of the regulars on the forums are trolls as a result of this.
- Responses to new ideas and features posted by players is therefore mostly done by trolls.
- The "community discussion" that is reviewed by the devs is therefore in fact incomplete and rather one-sided.

Until the ISDs start outright muting/banning people from the forums this pattern will continue and proper, reasonable discussion involving the majority of the community will never happen. The TOS/EULA allows for these bans/mutes. Take a look at the posts for user "PotatoOverdose". There are 20+ EULA/TOS infractions there. Take a look at the posts for user "Unsuccessful at Everything". Look, I think he's funny too. It doesn't mean there aren't 100+ EULA/TOS infraction there.

The trolls work as a community and tend to +1 eachothers posts as often as they can. The result is that many posts - such as this one - which the majority of the community may agree with will in fact receive substantially less likes than the posts made by the trolls which the majority of the community may disagree with. You can go ahead and apply this to most posts in most threads made by such players; and that's where it really matters. There are many great ideas and suggestions that are turned aside and lost forever because a group of trolls attack a thread, receive 12 likes from their troll friends, and it becomes assumed that the "community" disagrees with the idea. Even the OP might assume this and never consider his otherwise good idea ever again.

There's a reason why most of the changes that have occurred over the past few years have not been well received by the community; it's because the devs are increasingly unaware of what the community wants. Awareness comes through communication, which cannot happen until your consumers are motivated to communicate. In it's current state, only trolls or incredibly thick-skinned debaters are willing to have discussions in this - as was put best - cesspool of EVE Online.

Thanks for reading. Now let's set back and watch as the replies to my thread only prove my point further.


-



Hey girl, I realized about myself sometime ago that we ladies with two X chromosomes may be more open to censorship because we are uneducated and have no concern for human rights

It may not be good in the wrong run hunnybunches cuz what if evil men say we should be sensored like in misogyny an ****
KnowUsByTheDead
Sunlight...Through The Blight.
#45 - 2014-04-18 02:39:33 UTC
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
KnowUsByTheDead wrote:

Are you referring to Poster "s".....Poster "d".......and Poster "ls"?

I agree.

Have a like.

They seem to matter now.

Roll

You forgot the poster soon to be formerly known as iz.

Have a like, I'll log in my other characters to like you some more Twisted


We also have to throw in Poster "dp"

There are Goon dudes, posting in the thread.

Obviously it is a "cartel" conspiracy.

Oh noes!!!!!!!!!!

Straight

Once you realize what a joke everything is, being the comedian is the only thing that makes sense.

PotatoOverdose
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#46 - 2014-04-18 02:42:41 UTC
Kabeerah Kebab wrote:

Hey girl, I realized about myself sometime ago that we ladies with two X chromosomes may be more open to censorship because we are uneducated and have no concern for human rights

It may not be good in the wrong run hunnybunches cuz what if evil men say we should be sensored like in misogyny an ****

Wut. Is this the IZ alt mark 2?
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#47 - 2014-04-18 02:43:14 UTC
KnowUsByTheDead wrote:
We also have to throw in Poster "dp"

There are Goon dudes, posting in the thread.

Obviously it is a "cartel" conspiracy.

Oh noes!!!!!!!!!!

Straight
Nah, much as I like poking fun @ poster "dp" he's a world apart from the aforementioned posters.

I've been forced to like some of his more insightful and bang on target posts recently, because they were good posts.

In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.

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Dalto Bane
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#48 - 2014-04-18 02:46:17 UTC
La Nariz wrote:
Restricting NPC corps to New Citizens and character trading forums would be a great start.

Also nerfing highsec would help this as well.


La Nariz for CSM10!
I agree but unfortunately some would say something to the effect of it not being fair to their play style, and that player based corps don't fit there needs, or 100 other excuses to why they are NPC Corps, not to mention also of the forum throwaway troll alt.

Drops Mic

La Nariz
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#49 - 2014-04-18 02:46:19 UTC
KnowUsByTheDead wrote:
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
KnowUsByTheDead wrote:

Are you referring to Poster "s".....Poster "d".......and Poster "ls"?

I agree.

Have a like.

They seem to matter now.

Roll

You forgot the poster soon to be formerly known as iz.

Have a like, I'll log in my other characters to like you some more Twisted


We also have to throw in Poster "dp"

There are Goon dudes, posting in the thread.

Obviously it is a "cartel" conspiracy.

Oh noes!!!!!!!!!!

Straight


We control everything.

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Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#50 - 2014-04-18 02:47:32 UTC
La Nariz wrote:
KnowUsByTheDead wrote:


We also have to throw in Poster "dp"

There are Goon dudes, posting in the thread.

Obviously it is a "cartel" conspiracy.

Oh noes!!!!!!!!!!

Straight


We control everything.


Good thing that im Unsuccessful at Everything. Id hate to be label a goon alt again.

Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?

Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#51 - 2014-04-18 02:49:50 UTC
La Nariz wrote:
We control everything.
We know. Shocked

In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.

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KnowUsByTheDead
Sunlight...Through The Blight.
#52 - 2014-04-18 02:51:46 UTC
La Nariz wrote:


We control everything.


Then tell the bossman to pull the trigger on Burn Jita.

I have ships primed and ready.

Unless you are the bossman....

:tinfoil:

Shocked

Once you realize what a joke everything is, being the comedian is the only thing that makes sense.

Jarod Garamonde
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#53 - 2014-04-18 02:53:40 UTC
Lady Areola Fappington wrote:
Wow, I've found someone who thinks "likes" actually matter.

To make the thread actually useful, I found these "BlueBerry Cobbler" cookies at the store yesterday. Made by Pepperidge Farm. They're freaking delicious, if you like blueberry.



Your "like" count is only an indicator of how many fellow s**tposters saw your s**tpost.

That moment when you realize the crazy lady with all the cats was right...

    [#savethelance]
La Nariz
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#54 - 2014-04-18 02:53:47 UTC
KnowUsByTheDead wrote:
La Nariz wrote:


We control everything.


Then tell the bossman to pull the trigger on Burn Jita.

I have ships primed and ready.

Unless you are the bossman....

:tinfoil:

Shocked


Actually we've figured out a way to invade wormholes en mass so expect a lot of tears from a certain variety of risk averse PVErs.

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Solecist Project
#55 - 2014-04-18 02:54:32 UTC
Somebody mentioned Dinsdale.

I can not agree.

He may have been weirder in the past,
but I think he realized himself and turned it into a fun advantage.

I'd have HIM over the others any time of the day.
By far!

I actually like him.
There goes my reputation. lol

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia

Jarod Garamonde
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#56 - 2014-04-18 02:56:31 UTC
Oh..... sometimes I use the "like" button to alert someone that I've quoted them, in a threadnought, since we don't get told when someone responds directly to us.

That moment when you realize the crazy lady with all the cats was right...

    [#savethelance]
Belt Scout
Thread Lockaholics Anonymous
#57 - 2014-04-18 02:56:41 UTC
<--- x'ing up. Can someone fleet me in for tonight's roam?

They say most of your brain shuts down on the EvE forums. All but the impatient side, and the sarcastic side. No wonder I'm still awake.

**This IS my main so STFU.

Solecist Project
#58 - 2014-04-18 02:58:15 UTC
Belt Scout wrote:
<--- x'ing up. Can someone fleet me in for tonight's roam?

*Puts up lighting rod*

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia

KnowUsByTheDead
Sunlight...Through The Blight.
#59 - 2014-04-18 02:58:24 UTC
Solecist Project wrote:
Somebody mentioned Dinsdale.

I can not agree.

He may have been weirder in the past,
but I think he realized himself and turned it into a fun advantage.

I'd have HIM over the others any time of the day.
By far!

I actually like him.
There goes my reputation. lol


Nah, I joke about Dinsdale.

He can a least bring up reasonable debate.

He isn't vitrolic like the others.

Just too "conspiracy theorist" for my tastes.

vOv

Once you realize what a joke everything is, being the comedian is the only thing that makes sense.

Jarod Garamonde
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#60 - 2014-04-18 03:01:15 UTC
KnowUsByTheDead wrote:
Solecist Project wrote:
Somebody mentioned Dinsdale.

I can not agree.

He may have been weirder in the past,
but I think he realized himself and turned it into a fun advantage.

I'd have HIM over the others any time of the day.
By far!

I actually like him.
There goes my reputation. lol


Nah, I joke about Dinsdale.

He can a least bring up reasonable debate.

He isn't vitrolic like the others.

Just too "conspiracy theorist" for my tastes.

vOv


Dinsdale is simultaneously the guiding moral compass of the EVE forums, and an amalgam of all the things that are wrong with the EVE forums.

Except that he doesn't tell CCP the gifts are "crap".

That moment when you realize the crazy lady with all the cats was right...

    [#savethelance]